Ben Finney wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> As Executive Director of the XSF, I am willing to push for a change
>> to the licensing so that the XEP licensing is consistent with the
>> DFSG.
>
> Thank you for actively pursuing this worthwhile change.
>
>> Although we ne
Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Peter Saint-Andre:
>
>> Feedback is welcome.
>
> Modified versions of the Specification should be plainly marked as such.
> The resulting confusion is regularly feared in standardization-like
> activities and often prompts restrictive copyright licenses, even though
> th
Francesco Poli wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:33:14 +1000 Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> As Executive Director of the XSF, I am willing to push for a change
>>> to the licensing so that the XEP licensing is consistent with the
>>> DFSG.
>> Thank you fo
Joe Smith wrote:
>
> "Peter Saint-Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> It has been brought to my attention that the current licensing of the
>> protocol specifications produced by the XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF)
>> is not in compliance with the Debian Free So
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:00:02 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Francesco Poli wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:33:14 +1000 Ben Finney wrote:
> >
> >> Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> >> On the contrary, "software" is more sensibly contrasted with
> >> "hardware", and covers a
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:13:10 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:00:02 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
[...]
> > No different from what happens when I put software onto a T-shirt.
>
> I fail to see any problem in your example.
>
> Suppose that a GPLv2'ed work is printed on a T-sh
Francesco Poli wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:00:02 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>
>> Francesco Poli wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:33:14 +1000 Ben Finney wrote:
>>>
Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [...]
On the contrary, "software" is more sensibly contrasted with
>
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:35 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
> > This discrepancy has already been pointed out in bug #302417.
> > Could you help in solving that bug [4] ?
>
> Sure, I'll contact the main jabberd 1.x developer.
Thanks for the clarifications, and for h
Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
> > On the contrary, "software" is more sensibly contrasted with
> > "hardware", and covers any information in digital form — whether
> > that information happens to be interpreted as a program, an audio
> > stream, a text document,
Ben Finney wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Ben Finney wrote:
>>> On the contrary, "software" is more sensibly contrasted with
>>> "hardware", and covers any information in digital form — whether
>>> that information happens to be interpreted as a program, an audio
>>> s
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:14:50 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
[...]
> Question: when a document is printed, does it become hardware, or
> something else?
Not anymore than a program becomes hardware when it is stored on a
physical medium (hard disk, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, USB stick, floppy disk,
ROM chip,
Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
> > It would make your task of choosing a well-understood license
> > easier if you instead used "softwaree" in its original,
> > contrastted-with-hardware meaning, and not the narrow "programs
> > only" meaning that some retrofit t
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There seems to be no distinction between "software program" and
> "program" in the above. What other kind of programs are there?
Of course, I immediately realise that "program" has plenty of meaning
outside of (and predating) the computer field. Consider t
Ben Finney writes:
> Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> There seems to be no distinction between "software program" and
>> "program" in the above. What other kind of programs are there?
>
> Of course, I immediately realise that "program" has plenty of meaning
> outside of (and predating)
Ben Finney writes:
> It would make your task of choosing a well-understood license easier
> if you instead used "softwaree" in its original,
> contrastted-with-hardware meaning, and not the narrow "programs only"
> meaning that some retrofit to it.
After seeing this claim made quite a few times o
Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ben Finney writes:
> > Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> There seems to be no distinction between "software program" and
> >> "program" in the above. What other kind of programs are there?
> >
> > Of course, I immediately realise that "program"
Ben Finney writes:
> Michael Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Most computer-literate English speakers in the world use "software"
>> to mean "computer program" rather than "information"
>
> Perhaps, but that's not very relevant here. This discussion thread
> relates to a highly technically-foc
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