Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Ondřej Surý
However I don't think there is anything copyrightable in these files; they only contain series of numbers that describe the mappings. Do you people think it could be suitable for main? (Please follow-up on -legal only for licensing discussions.) Ondrej, are you willing - if the legal

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread John Halton
However I don't think there is anything copyrightable in these files; they only contain series of numbers that describe the mappings. I don't see any reason in principle why series of numbers that describe the mappings couldn't be protected by copyright. Could you provide more details of why

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread John Halton
On 28/11/2007, Michael Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on a quick look, these files establish a correspondence between different character set encodings. Copyright protects creative expression. What is the creative part of this mapping? I can see two possible bases: character selection

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Michael Poole
John Halton writes: However I don't think there is anything copyrightable in these files; they only contain series of numbers that describe the mappings. I don't see any reason in principle why series of numbers that describe the mappings couldn't be protected by copyright. Could you

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:43:34PM +, John Halton wrote: On 28/11/2007, Michael Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on a quick look, these files establish a correspondence between different character set encodings. Copyright protects creative expression. What is the creative part of

Re: Licensing of iso-codes

2007-11-28 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Olive [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: Tobias Toedter wrote: Would it be possible for non-free programs to use that data (XML files and translations) if iso-codes is licensed under GPL? Or would we need to use the LGPL for this? My first thought

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:33:07PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:43:34PM +, John Halton wrote: On 28/11/2007, Michael Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on a quick look, these files establish a correspondence between different character set encodings.

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread John Halton
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:33:07PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: FWIW, I believe a search of debian-legal archives will show that we've come to the same conclusion before about copyrightability of non-creative databases, and are already shipping a number of these in Debian. Thanks, that's

Re: Bug#451799: new evince cannot display Japanese characters correctly

2007-11-28 Thread Ben Finney
John Halton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, that's useful to know. I'm still trying to get a feel for how Debian treats these cases where there is no express licence, how people weigh up the legal pros and cons. Inconsistently :-) -- \The World is not dangerous because of those