> > This looks very similar to distributing a picture which is a 2D
> > rendering of a 3D model without distributing the original model. This is
> > already accepted in the archive, and the reason is that a 2D picture is
> > its own source, and can serve as a base for modified versions this way.
>
> I mentioned Voxforge in my previous email. Their goal is to use their
> free spech data to train models with HTK and use the models with
> Julius. You can get the source code of HTK after registration on their
> website but the license has severe restrictions so HTK is not free
> software. Juliu
Le mercredi 27 mai 2009 à 00:36 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit :
> > Of course, the decision is up to the FTP masters, but I think this
> > should be accepted for the sake of consistency with things we already
> > cannot decently exclude from the archive.
>
> I instead think that FTP masters should
2009/5/27 Mark Weyer :
>> > This looks very similar to distributing a picture which is a 2D
>> > rendering of a 3D model without distributing the original model. This is
>> > already accepted in the archive, and the reason is that a 2D picture is
>> > its own source, and can serve as a base for mod
> > I agree with you. In particular, in many cases a single 3D model is used
> > to create many 2D images. If you don't have the model, you need to do
> > the modification many times.
> > And then there is the case of increasing the resolution...
> I don't know if it would be technically possible
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:33:52AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Disclaimers, of course: IANADD, TINASOTODP (and IANAL, TINLA).
> If you really feel the urge to add meaningless acronyms to all your
> emails, please do so in your signature.
Better yet: he should recognize that the reason he
I know I should not reply to polemic posts because it is just one step
short of troll-feeding, but anyway:
> I suggest you start your own distribution, in which you won’t ship:
> * xfonts-* (bitmap renderings of non-free vector fonts)
I agree that these do not belong in a free distribution
On Wed, 27 May 2009 11:25:09 +0900 Mathieu Blondel wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Francesco Poli wrote:
>
> > I think that in the case of machine learning models, source form is
> > even more clearly distinct from compiled object.
> > We can consider an artificial neural network, for i
On Wed, 27 May 2009 11:36:55 +0200 Mark Weyer wrote:
[...]
> Extremes: I do not agree with this classification of my view.
> I value a free game for the fact, that I can fool around with the source
> to make it "better". Adding features, levels, characters. If this means
> that I have to add long
On Wed, 27 May 2009 10:33:52 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mercredi 27 mai 2009 à 00:36 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit :
[...]
> > I instead think that FTP masters should change their minds about 2D
> > images rendered from 3D models.
>
> I suggest you start your own distribution, in which yo
On Wed, 27 May 2009 11:37:56 +0200 Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:33:52AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > Disclaimers, of course: IANADD, TINASOTODP (and IANAL, TINLA).
>
> > If you really feel the urge to add meaningless acronyms to all your
> > emails, please do so in y
Steve Langasek writes:
> [specific person]'s posts are an inappropriate use of this mailing
> list and not productive, and [they should] stop posting.
On what are you basing your judgement of “appropriate use of this
mailing list”? Can you give specific examples of posts you think are
inappropri
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Francesco Poli wrote:
>> Afterall, a model is just a big set of numbers.
>
> Machine code is just a long sequence of 0s and 1s...
I knew someone would come up with this :-)
Let me summarize and please correct me if I'm wrong.
* The model alone can be distribute
Mathieu Blondel writes:
> * The model alone can be distributed under a free license.
> - As a consequence of this, neither the original data nor the program
> to build the model need to be free.
Going by the FSF definition of a free work, specifically freedom 1 and 3
http://www.gnu.org/philosoph
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