Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Paul Wise
Firstly, the Debian Games team would very much welcome new games in Debian and even better would be new people willing to help the team with existing and new games in Debian. Regarding licenses, even if the license doesn't require source code distribution, Debian does, see DFSG #2. Some Debian mem

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Rudolf Polzer
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 03:43:32PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Firstly, the Debian Games team would very much welcome new games in > Debian and even better would be new people willing to help the team > with existing and new games in Debian. > > Regarding licenses, even if the license doesn't requir

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Rudolf Polzer wrote: > BTW: is it DFSG and GPL compliant to compose music using CC-BY released > samples? CC-BY does not require anything about the license of derived works > (only CC-BY-SA does). And can't the source requirement of the GPL be fulfilled > by provid

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Rudolf Polzer
[I had accidentally sent this message to Paul Wise's address first. Resending] On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 06:35:59PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Rudolf Polzer wrote: > > > BTW: is it DFSG and GPL compliant to compose music using CC-BY released > > samples? CC-BY does n

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Rudolf Polzer
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 07:25:58PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, 2010-04-04 at 13:09 +0200, Rudolf Polzer wrote: > > Well, can it then still be one single download package? > > > > Can "the game" consist on multiple differently licensed parts? > > > > Can these then be provided as one downloa

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Paul Wise
[Repost of a message from Paul Wise by Rudolf Polzer with Paul Wise's permission] On Sun, 2010-04-04 at 13:09 +0200, Rudolf Polzer wrote: > Well, can it then still be one single download package? > > Can "the game" consist on multiple differently licensed parts? > > Can these then be provided

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:28:35 +0200 Rudolf Polzer wrote: [...] > Francesco Poli wrote:: > > On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:28:43 +0200 Rudolf Polzer wrote: > > > speaking for a new game that will aim to be included in Debian, I wonder > > > how > > > certain media content can be legally distributed together

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 12:22:53AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > However, it is my opinion that works with unavailable source do not > comply with DFSG#2, regardless of the license. Your opinion is not relevant. The text of the DFSG is what's relevant, and the text says that *programs* must incl

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Rudolf Polzer wrote: > One argument against supplying "full" source code commonly raised by artists, > is that a 3MB large music piece can depend on several gigabytes of "source > data", if applying the source requirement recursively. This is one problem, but while it may not

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Walter Landry
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 12:22:53AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: >> However, it is my opinion that works with unavailable source do not >> comply with DFSG#2, regardless of the license. > > Your opinion is not relevant. The text of the DFSG is what's relevant, and > the te

Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?

2010-04-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 08:11:26PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 12:22:53AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > >> However, it is my opinion that works with unavailable source do not > >> comply with DFSG#2, regardless of the license. > > Your opinion