Parsing output = derivative work? (was: RFS: gnetworktester)

2011-03-06 Thread W. Martin Borgert
(out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > gnetworktester seems to parse the output of nmap and nmap upstream at > http://insecure.org/nmap/data/COPYING gives me the impression that > gnetworktester would thus be "derivative work". IANAL, but since

The "Evil Cookie Producer" case

2011-03-06 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Hello, I'm confronted with a very special case for which I've written a metaphor. I'd like your opinion on this case. Imagine that using software is like baking cookies. A free/open source cookie specialist, company A, distributes recipes that are free in the sense of the AGPL: everybody is

Re: Parsing output = derivative work? (was: RFS: gnetworktester)

2011-03-06 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:04:35 +0100 W. Martin Borgert wrote: > (out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) (I guess you intended to ask to keep the other recipients in Cc: if so, you should ask explicitly) > > On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > gnetworktester seems to parse the out

Re: The "Evil Cookie Producer" case

2011-03-06 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:43:02 +0100 Bruno Lowagie wrote: > Hello, Hi! > > I'm confronted with a very special case for which I've written a > metaphor. I'd like your opinion on this case. > > Imagine that using software is like baking cookies. [...] > I would like to hear your opinion on this c

Re: Parsing output = derivative work? (was: RFS: gnetworktester)

2011-03-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 06 mars 2011 à 12:04 +0100, W. Martin Borgert a écrit : > (out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) > > On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > gnetworktester seems to parse the output of nmap and nmap upstream at > > http://insecure.org/nmap/data/COPYING gives me the impr

Re: The "Evil Cookie Producer" case

2011-03-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 06 mars 2011 à 12:43 +0100, Bruno Lowagie a écrit : > I'm confronted with a very special case for which I've written a > metaphor. I'd like your opinion on this case. This is not a metaphor. It is about something that is not software, for which you try to apply software reasoning. I fa

Re: The "Evil Cookie Producer" case

2011-03-06 Thread Bruno Lowagie
Op 6/03/2011 18:00, Josselin Mouette schreef: This is not a metaphor. It is about something that is not software, for which you try to apply software reasoning. I fail to see where you want to go with this. *10 Q: Does the DFSG apply only to computer programs? **A:* No, we apply our standards

Re: Parsing output = derivative work? (was: RFS: gnetworktester)

2011-03-06 Thread Tim Brown
--nextPart2958378.qgascxSZ95 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 06 March 2011 11:04:35 W. Martin Borgert wrote: > (out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) >=20 > On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > gnetworktester seems

Re: The "Evil Cookie Producer" case

2011-03-06 Thread MJ Ray
Bruno Lowagie wrote: > Please don't avoid the question: does the freedom to hide information > prevail over the freedom to get information? You mean like you avoided the question: what is the actual case here? This list works better when it is discussing actual software which be considered for d