Re: .ttf in source packages

2017-08-16 Thread Ben Finney
Jeff Epler writes: > Are ".ttf" files "source files" under the DFSG? That's not a question that can be answered for all works. It needs to be asked of each work. > (Surely they are not the source files used within Bitstream during the > development of the font!)

.ttf in source packages

2017-08-16 Thread Jeff Epler
Based on the recent discussion of the "Hack" typeface, I have become curious. Debian ships fonts in "main" where the source package contains only .ttf files. ttf-bitstream-vera is an example of such a package. Are ".ttf" files "source files" under the DFSG? (Surely they are not the source

Re: DFSG + Hack typeface license with transition to proposed new source file build in Debian package

2017-08-16 Thread Chris Simpkins
> I personally think that technical issues should not be worked around by imposing licensing restrictions. If typeface development tools need to be improved in order to get better QA, then I hope they can be enhanced from a *technical* point of view. In the meanwhile, licensing restrictions should

Re: DFSG + Hack typeface license with transition to proposed new source file build in Debian package

2017-08-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 08:40:00 -0400 Chris Simpkins wrote: > [...] Downstream open source project font licensing from the days > prior to SIL OFL (and to some degree even after that period) is a > bit of a quagmire. Hello, I agree that font licensing is a quagmire. Well, I even go further and

Re: DFSG + Hack typeface license with transition to proposed new source file build in Debian package

2017-08-16 Thread Chris Simpkins
Thank you Jeff.  The Hack Open Font License was modeled on the Bitstream Vera license and SIL OFL.  Downstream open source project font licensing from the days prior to SIL OFL (and to some degree even after that period) is a bit of a quagmire. Item 2 is where the reserved font name

Re: DFSG + Hack typeface license with transition to proposed new source file build in Debian package

2017-08-16 Thread Jeff Epler
Here is the text of the license found at > [2] https://github.com/source-foundry/Hack/blob/master/LICENSE.md ## License Hack Copyright 2015, Christopher Simpkins with Reserved Font Name "Hack". Bitstream Vera Sans Mono Copyright 2003 Bitstream Inc. and licensed under the Bitstream Vera License