Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free?

2005-01-10 Thread Alexander Sack
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Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-18 Thread Alexander Sack
ch the orig.tar.gz in advance. I would think so; we currently remove the icons anyway, so IMHO removing all other trademarks would be necessary too, right? -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' :

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander Sack
Mike Hommey wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 01:53:37AM +0100, Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But again, for me it is still unclear if we need to patch the orig.tar.gz in advance. I would think so; we currently remove the icons anyway, so IMHO removing all other trademarks wo

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander Sack
d-os2.ico mozilla/other-licenses/branding/thunderbird/thunderbird.icns mozilla/other-licenses/branding/thunderbird/thunderbird.ico mozilla/other-licenses/branding/thunderbird/watermark.png -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' :

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander Sack
er, being a realist, I do not think that I could convince people responsible for that to do that in the near future :) ... so here _we_ are stuck. p.s. s/firefox/firefox\/thunderbird/g -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :'

Re: Firefox/Thunderbird trademarks: a proposal

2005-01-19 Thread Alexander Sack
Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So the only way out of this is to not contaminate main and to not stop distributing a firefox package by: 1. packaging weasel packages for main 2. putting a brand (extension) package named firefox in non-free. On furhter t

mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free ?

2004-12-29 Thread Alexander Sack
/trademarks/policy.html - -- ~ GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** ~ Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System ~ http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -BEGIN PGP S

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free ?

2004-12-30 Thread Alexander Sack
OK, I think it is a good idea to post the full mail for reference purpose. Gervase Markham wrote: Alexander Sack wrote: OK, please make a summary ASAP with the points that are needed, e.g. no package must be called something with mozilla, etc. Please keep in mind that we are about to

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free ?

2004-12-30 Thread Alexander Sack
st negotiate on the name und keep it running as usual, until they really claim that we need to remove a patch or something. if that happens, we can rethink our position and maybe drop the trademark symbols. Anyway, I guess we should try find a unique solution for all mozilla apps. -- GPG mes

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free ?

2004-12-30 Thread Alexander Sack
ird should still be a bird ... and since the removal of trademarks is an act of releasing it to freedom, why not just call it freebird? -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `&#x

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free ?

2004-12-30 Thread Alexander Sack
freezilla - ... mozilla Naming the packages like this would emphasize that we want to be free and not reigned by trademarks. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' O

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free ?

2004-12-30 Thread Alexander Sack
am tarball and patch it during build. It is easier to maintain ;) -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free ?

2004-12-30 Thread Alexander Sack
s 'freezilla'. But maybe we can work around this problem by naming it freexilla :) -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free ?

2004-12-30 Thread Alexander Sack
ource tarball should look like and if they are planning to release one at some point. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/

Re: Trademarks: what is the line?

2004-12-31 Thread Alexander Sack
don't. AFAICS, as soon as you do not use the community edition you have to change the package name *and* the command names. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `&#x

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free ?

2004-12-31 Thread Alexander Sack
tched to firefox, because they _could not_ claim firebird their own. However, freefox vs. firefox might be a problem; but then let's consider something similar like wildfox or openfox. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :&

Re: Mozilla and Trademarks

2005-01-01 Thread Alexander Sack
suggestion here would be to give your projects something like a codename (e.g. thunderbird codename freehawk) and explicitly grant the right to use those codenames for derived works of thunderbird in your trademark policy. The same would be true for mozilla, firefox and

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free?

2005-01-04 Thread Alexander Sack
hat is needed to do, to actually keep things going. I doubt there is a solution unless you do so. -- GPG messages preferred. | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | `. `' Operating System http://www.jwsdot.com/ | `-http://www.debian.org/

Re: mozilla thunderbird trademark restrictions / still dfsg free?

2005-01-10 Thread Alexander Sack
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Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-22 Thread Alexander Sack
an (and it would be a real improvement if we were able > to distribute it!), but I can not understand why it is special-cased > when it comes to licensing issues. > I hope this special treatment has nothing to do with the sun-ubuntu deal announced a few days ago. - Alexander -- GPG me