Re: Bug#686580: netdiag: Strobe license is incorrectly stated as GPL

2012-10-19 Thread Michael Meskes
I'm going to upload a strobe-less version of netdiag as soon as I find a couple of minutes to do it. Sorry for the hassle, this copyright notice has been in there for a long time. But then the copyright might have changed, I need to do some research. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael a

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-06-04 Thread Michael Meskes
position expressed by a person that has a special position but is not elected is to be considered an official statement by the project? Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) ICQ: 179140304, AIM/Yahoo: michaelmeskes, Jabber: [EMAIL PRO

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-22 Thread Michael Meskes
annot get rid of this by just stopping to distribute Java. Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) ICQ: 179140304, AIM/Yahoo: michaelmeskes, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL! --

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-22 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 01:39:47PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 12:35:41PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > > You are told by a programmer that you are allowed to offer their > > software on your server, but the programmer also tells you that his > >

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-22 Thread Michael Meskes
ons, I can't see any realistic scenario in which we could > be sued and lose a case in relation to this license. Do you? Yes, I do, but not for distributing it. Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) ICQ: 179140304, AIM/Yahoo:

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-22 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 11:29:05AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 10:50 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > > Again this logic doesn't seem to work for me. If I was offering warez > > on my server I couldn't become legal again by just removing it. My >

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-22 Thread Michael Meskes
c doesn't seem to work for me. If I was offering warez on my server I couldn't become legal again by just removing it. My prior action would still get me sued, doesn't it? And no, just saying I thought it was okay, doesn't help me either. Michael -- Michael Meskes Email

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-22 Thread Michael Meskes
eah I'm a bit pissed of that we only have people criticizing when we > do great things. And I'm pissed of that so much seems to happen behind the scenes and I as a normal developer who did not go to Mexico do not get the info even if I ask, but instead people are just told to shut up.

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-21 Thread Michael Meskes
w can you help someone if you don't know he needs help? Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De ICQ: 179140304, AIM/Yahoo: michaelmeskes, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-21 Thread Michael Meskes
bian is no democracy what else is it??? Third we are not talking about "random opinions" but about an opinion shared by a lot of people. And it still doesn't count? This is not the project I used to work for for so long. Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-21 Thread Michael Meskes
with is a bad looking decision done by just a few people some of whom don't even speak up in this discussion. Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De ICQ: 179140304, AIM/Yahoo: michaelmeskes, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Us

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-21 Thread Michael Meskes
nst all other packages? :-) Again, to all the Sun folks reading this, this is not against your efforts that I like a lot. But the same PR effect could have been reached by announcing that Sun and Debian jointly work on a way to distribute Java instead of pushing it into the archive. Michael -- Micha

Re: [draft] Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-21 Thread Michael Meskes
That's true. But why did they release this license and used no other wording? You essantially say, why worry about a license if it's bad PR too sue the licensees. I doubt it really works that way. After all you could, at some point somehow, get into a situation where Sun doesn

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-19 Thread Michael Meskes
ences > > actually examine this one? > > Yes. I take it you were too busy to elaborate on this when you wrote this email. So you will probably give us the name of this person later on, right? Or even better this person may stand up now and speak for himself and share his reasoning.

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-18 Thread Michael Meskes
be the admin who accepted the packages could tell us why he did and why he did in such a timely fashion. I am certainly interested in his reasoning. Michael P.S.: CCing ftpmaster so this admin definitely gets this email and can identify himself. -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes do

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Michael Meskes
answer fits with the license. To me the license seems to give more options for Sun to make us idemnify them. Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) ICQ: 179140304, AIM/Yahoo: michaelmeskes, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go SF 49ers! Go Rhei

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Michael Meskes
t the license on Debian legal which surprises me a little bit, but then maybe I just missed the relevant parts of the license. Anyway, as a non-lawyer I'm surprised that we seem to accept that we have to "defend and indemnify Sun". Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Me

Re: License question

2002-11-05 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 08:17:56PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > ... > This prevents modifying and distributing the code for experiments with > other data formats. Thus non-free. Thanks a lot for this info. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael@Fam-Meskes.De Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! U

License question

2002-11-04 Thread Michael Meskes
hanks. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael@Fam-Meskes.De Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!

Documentation

2000-08-30 Thread Michael Meskes
Hi, do I need some sort of a special license if I want to package some docs that are availabe for free on a website? Michael P.S.: Please CC me on replies since I'm not subscribed here. -- Michael Meskes Michael@Fam-Meskes.De Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!

Question

2000-03-15 Thread Michael Meskes
Is the appended license okay for us? Yes, I know we are talking about non-free. Michael P.S.: Please CC me on replies. -- Michael Meskes | Go SF 49ers! Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz| Go Rhein Fire! Tel.: (+49) 2431/72651 | Use Debian GNU/Linux