Previously ninewands wrote:
> Just a thought ... how difficult would it be to port the postgres ssl
> support to link to OpenSSL?
Perhaps you mean GnuTLS? I'm not sure if we want to do that for
stability reasons.. I GnuTLS is already stable enough for production
use.
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Previously Martin Schulze wrote:
> This could affect us as well. It talks about a donation from Sun
> that includes patents and: ``the licence on the new code basically
> builds a contract that says "if you use this code, you cannot sue
> Sun"''.
There are other clauses as well. On top of the Ope
Previously Matt Kraai wrote:
> * it contains cryptographic program code which needed to be
>stored on a non-US server because of United States export
>restrictions, or
This is no longer true.
> * it contains program code which needs to be stored on a non-US
>server because of United
Previously Peter Makholm wrote:
> I think there are consensus for allowing positive discrimination.
There is? That would be a mighty slippery slope.
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Previously Lazarus Long wrote:
> Reading /usr/share/doc/vim/copyright, it appears this package fails to
> comply with point 3 of the DFSG. If so, this seems "messy" at best,
> since it has been in main in previous releases, hence should probably be
> discussed on this list.
If you are interested
Previously Sunnanvind Briling Fenderson wrote:
> What's this I hear about MP3-decoding (as opposed to encoding) being
> patented and Fraunhofer only allowing non-commercial use, requiring a
> fee otherwise? (I thought this was the reason why the original mpg123
> only allowed non-commercial use.)
Previously J?r?me Marant wrote:
> I forgot about gif. Do you have any other examples?
I haven't memorized the list of packages on non-US, but you could
esaily download the Packages files for it and look through the
descriptions.
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Previously J?r?me Marant wrote:
> IIRC, Debian does not provide patented software (no MP3 encoder,
> no DeCSS, etc).
We do. Look at gif handling code for example.
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Previously Henning Makholm wrote:
> I think this is non-free. It means that people without net access
> cannot receive the software on disks from a friend and later give
> the friend back a bugfixed version.
Does it say `immediately' or `electronically' ?
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Previously Aaron Lehmann wrote:
> mmmkay, well, could I put mplayer (with or without CSS decryption) in
> non-free? That's basically what I'm looking for.
A technical problem is that mplayer optimizes itself for the machine
you compile it on, which is quite impractical when you are packaging
it. A
Previously Joseph Carter wrote:
> Well supposedly SPI already exists for this purpose, however SPI and
> Debian both cower in fear from the mere potential of a cease-and-desist
> letter because someone got the bright idea that one might be possible
> under a silly US currently law being actively ch
Previously Sergio Brandano wrote:
> I agree. I propose a very simple solution: to archive and index
> emails as usual, as far as the date of these emails is no older than
> six (6) months. This is also in line with the need for our mailing
> lists to allow other friends to benefit from our
Previously Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> : Authors of free software on the other hand are generally looking
> : for some combination of the following:
> :
> : - Not allowing use of their code in commercial software. Since
> :they are releasing the code for others to use without any
> :prof
Previously Sam Hartman wrote:
> I can't find an answer to the question on this list's archives and so
> I'm asking it again. It seems fairly clear to me that the answer is
> yes, if proper procedures are followed, but since export issues are
> kind of touchy I want to make sure that I'm not missin
Previously Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
> I have packed a microcode loader for Pentium Pro, Pentium II,...
How is it different then the /dev/cpu/microcode support the
kernel already provides?
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Previously Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
> If MNG or ogg/vorbis were anywhere near being usable,
> problem would be solved.
Basic NMG support will be in M17 iirc, there is ogg/vorbis encoder
and working decoders in woody now.
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Previously Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
> If MNG or ogg/vorbis were anywhere near being usable,
> problem would be solved.
Basic NMG support will be in M17 iirc, there is ogg/vorbis encoder
and working decoders in woody now.
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can come up with a better wording speak up now.
From the reiserfs mailinglist:
Hans Reiser wrote:
> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > If this is the case may I suggest changing the text a bit then? If you
> > release it under the GPL and add a statement like the one below things
one
can come up with a better wording speak up now.
From the reiserfs mailinglist:
Hans Reiser wrote:
> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > If this is the case may I suggest changing the text a bit then? If you
> > release it under the GPL and add a statement like the one below things
Previously Hans Reiser wrote:
> No, it makes it GPL'd with an additional license available if you don't like
> GPL
> and are willing to pay.
If this is the case may I suggest changing the text a bit then? If you release
it under the GPL and add a statement like the one below things will be a lot
Previously Hans Reiser wrote:
> No, it makes it GPL'd with an additional license available if you don't like GPL
> and are willing to pay.
If this is the case may I suggest changing the text a bit then? If you release
it under the GPL and add a statement like the one below things will be a lot
mo
Previously Joey Hess wrote:
> http://www.491.org/projets/api/
Nice. Time to write them a letter I guess. How about something like this:
--
We recently became aware of your website at http://www.491.org/projets/api/ .
Unf
Previously [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Below is some data on the patent and some historical data
> I dug out from Debian web site. It seems to show that some
> time between -95 and -97 dselect supported upgrading from
> internet.
Firt time it uses a remote database would be January 1996, when the
n
Previously Gergely Madarasz wrote:
> (A note for debian-legal members, all the information which can be found
> about webmin licensing is on the website, pasted here:
>
>What licence is Webmin distributed under?
>
>Following the acquisition of Webmin by Caldera, all past a
Previously Martin Schulze wrote:
> We are told that the installation routine is free software. Though,
> only stubs have been made available, iirc.
If you go to ftp.corel.com and browse around you'll find the complete
sources.
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Previously Ben Pfaff wrote:
> No, file formats are not copyrightable, only actual files.
> Otherwise clones of proprietary packages with proprietary file
> formats would be in violation of copyright.
We're starting to digress here though.. lets stop this thread, I
think all arguments have been mad
Previously Henning Makholm wrote:
> That's knowledge. Facts are not copyrightable, only particular
> expressions of facts are.
Such as a particular way to express the format for the intermediate language?
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Previously Bruce Perens wrote:
> Yes, but you'd have to look very carefully at the GPL source code to figure
> out what the intermediate code _is_, and the result, if copied into a non-GPL
> program, would probably be an infringement.
But then you get back to the point it's easy to circumvent: one
Previously Bruce Perens wrote:
> Yup. I want to see if he finds a difference where the Modula-3 compiler
> is concerned. I think he _will_, because the compiler _must_ be using
> GPL headers to work with the GCC back-end.
I'm not sure.. it would be pretty easy do something where you simply
push th
Previously Bruce Perens wrote:
> I'm sorry, but I don't see much sense in carrying it on any longer.
> If asked, I'd have to state that there is _not_ a licensing problem with
> dpkg and get_it. So far, I haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise.
FWIW, RMS also doesn't see a problem with thi
I'm talking with the author of vim about this, and he is a bit reluctant
to remove the encryption-code from vim. I can't blame him, where he
lives (netherlands) it's not an issue, and we are the first to complain.
He did bring up an interesting point: would translating something from
English to D
Previously Bruce Perens wrote:
> Lose it. We shouldn't be providing weak crypto.
Euh, hmm. Strong answer :). I've forwarded the issues to the vim
upstream author to see if he will consider removing crypto from
his version as well.
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Guys, I'm a bit at a loss here. I'm quite sure the encryption in vim is
not strong enough to fall under the US export-laws, but I would like
someone to confirm this..
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Previously Christian Surchi wrote:
> I have a package (tkpgp) from munitions.vipul.net archive and the
> upstream maintainer wants distribute only his email and his nick. The
> program is GPL. Can this package stay in Debian, without real name of
> author in debian/copyright?
I don't see why not..
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Did someone else notice that OSI apparently has started using a new
trademark? In a feature called `on being proprietary' for slashdot
Russ Nelson mentions the term `OSI Certified(tm)'..
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having an mp3-encode
on non-US will influence our mirrors though.
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This got bounced already a couple of times, and I thought you
might be interested as well.
Now go and tear it apart :)
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Previously Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > `official license'
> > ==
> > I. may only be used if:
> >a) the product it is used for is made using a documented procudere we
> > make (for example
why I put this one in there :)
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, but it captures the above and gives us a bit more freedom.
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It was recently modified
to make vim DFSG-free.
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actually do remember that. I jumped in the middle of the discussion so
I just hadn't realized that you were him, err, yourself, err, whatever :)
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Lemme guess, you're studying to become a lawyer? :)
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I'm not in favour of condoning the first, but I'm not sure sure about
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