AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-08-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi, there were several threads around AGPL recently, mostly re-stirred due to Horracle using AGPLv3 for Berkeley DB. I was unable to follow them totally and remember there being raised at least two points: • The inability to provide security support for AGPL software (embargoed fixes)/ • The

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-08-27 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
On Aug 27, 2013 8:15 AM, "Thorsten Glaser" wrote: > > Hi, > > there were several threads around AGPL recently, mostly re-stirred due > to Horracle using AGPLv3 for Berkeley DB. > > I was unable to follow them totally and remember there being raised at > least two points: > > • The inability to pro

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-08-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:00:10 -0400 Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote: > On Aug 27, 2013 8:15 AM, "Thorsten Glaser" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > there were several threads around AGPL recently, mostly re-stirred due > > to Horracle using AGPLv3 for Berkeley DB. > > [...] In the recent discussions, the main

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-08-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Francesco Poli paranoici.org> writes: > In the recent discussions, the main concerns were about the switch of a Yes, I know, but the discussion was raised, so I wanted to make sure. > > > So, is AGPLv3 still acceptable for main? > For the record, I personally disagree with their conclusion: F

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-08-31 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:15:25 + (UTC) Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Francesco Poli paranoici.org> writes: [...] > > > > So, is AGPLv3 still acceptable for main? > > > For the record, I personally disagree with their conclusion: > > Francesco, I specifically did *not* ask for your personal opinion

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-01 Thread MJ Ray
On 29/08/13 16:15, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Francesco, [stuff] Look, there's a command in email software for sending a reply to one person. "Reply to List" or "Reply to All" is not it - if anyone is going to lecture others on how "to improve your communication behaviour", start by using the corre

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-01 Thread Thorsten Glaser
MJ Ray writes: > Look, […] My reply was specifically to this newsgroup, a long-needed “request” to shut up, and explicitly *not* soliciting *your* personal(!) opinion on those licences either. I do not require the “added value”, and this newsgroup is spammed enough by the likes of you two. Besid

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-02 Thread MJ Ray
On 01/09/13 18:12, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > //mirabilos (with backing from other DDs in this group, by private mail) Well, I'm a DD too, I don't back that sort of disrespectful, sarcastic, uncollaborative, overlong rant and yes, lurkers support me by email too! I'll accept that the link to 2008 w

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:33 PM, MJ Ray wrote: > On 01/09/13 18:12, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> //mirabilos (with backing from other DDs in this group, by private mail) > > Well, I'm a DD too, I don't back that sort of disrespectful, sarcastic, > uncollaborative, overlong rant and yes, lurkers suppor

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Paul Wise debian.org> writes: > Likewise. I don't appreciate the disrespectful tone some folks have > displayed in this and other recent threads. I would like to remind Oh great, and who’s going to deal with trolls then? You’re not holding Francesco to them, I’m noticing. I’ve heard that France

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-02 Thread MJ Ray
On 02/09/13 12:14, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Paul Wise debian.org> writes: >> Likewise. I don't appreciate the disrespectful tone some folks have >> displayed in this and other recent threads. I would like to remind > > Oh great, and who’s going to deal with trolls then? You’re not > holding Franc

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-07 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:12:46 + (UTC) Thorsten Glaser wrote: [...] > Francesco Poli paranoici.org> writes: > > > You asked whether it's still acceptable for Debian main: I answered by > > describing what the FTP Masters think > > Look, as I said above, that was 2008. Not the recent discussion

[OT] Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
MJ Ray phonecoop.coop> writes: > Well, we "hear" things like that every time someone doesn't agree about In this case I talked with other DDs on IRC. > whether software follows the DFSG or not, yet the number of subscribers > seems to be generally increasing towards some asymptote > http://list

Re: [OT] Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-03 Thread MJ Ray
On 02/09/13 21:27, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> MJ Ray phonecoop.coop> writes: >> > whether software follows the DFSG or not, yet the number of subscribers >> > seems to be generally increasing towards some asymptote >> > http://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-legal.png > You know that l.d.o is not the