Re: Are register names and locations under copyright?

2018-01-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Philipp Klaus Krause writes ("Re: Are register names and locations under copyright?"): > However, the files are just lists of register names and locations. So if > the files are not under copyright, I guess that copyright note could be > ignored? Yes. The ftpmasters seem to

Re: Are register names and locations under copyright?

2018-01-11 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
Am 11.01.2018 um 10:49 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > >> The source file would be pic16f1320.inc, which is part of gputils (which >> is packaged in Debian, the .inc file gets installed to >> /usr/share/gputils/header/pic16f1320.inc). > > Hmm, I

Re: Are register names and locations under copyright?

2018-01-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > The source file would be pic16f1320.inc, which is part of gputils (which > is packaged in Debian, the .inc file gets installed to > /usr/share/gputils/header/pic16f1320.inc). Hmm, I'm not sure these files should be in Debian main, a l

Re: Are register names and locations under copyright?

2018-01-11 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
Am 11.01.2018 um 03:57 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > >> Problem: Hardware vendors want to impose non-free terms on the header >> files (via a copyright claim on the files that the headers were >> generated from). > > I think we need more detai

Re: Are register names and locations under copyright?

2018-01-10 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 01/10/2018 09:47 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:13 AM, Milan Kupcevic wrote: > >> It is widely held in the IT industry, and in technical industries in >> general, that interface descriptions and definitions can not be legally >> protected as that would stop development and pro

Re: Are register names and locations under copyright?

2018-01-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: > Problem: Hardware vendors want to impose non-free terms on the header > files (via a copyright claim on the files that the headers were > generated from). I think we need more details. Are the files the headers were generated from pub

Re: Are register names and locations under copyright?

2018-01-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:13 AM, Milan Kupcevic wrote: > It is widely held in the IT industry, and in technical industries in > general, that interface descriptions and definitions can not be legally > protected as that would stop development and production of compatible > replacement parts by thi

Re: Are register names and locations under copyright?

2018-01-10 Thread Milan Kupcevic
Hi Philipp, On 01/10/2018 08:11 AM, Philipp Klaus Krause wrote: [...] > > Problem: Hardware vendors want to impose non-free terms on the header > files (via a copyright claim on the files that the headers were > generated from). I'm not a lawyer and this is not a legal advice. My position on t

Are register names and locations under copyright?

2018-01-10 Thread Philipp Klaus Krause
SDCC, a free C compiler targeting microcontrollers wants to provide header files that contain I/O register names and locations for their targets. The header files are automatically generated from some files from the hardware vendor (e.g. tables in datasheets or some database). For some targets, SD