Re: Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto? (was: Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs)

2007-05-16 Thread Jason A. Spiro
2007/5/15, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... How about: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd-nc/1.0/legalcode with 4. d. added saying: You may not publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work except as part of the game and you may not

Re: Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto? (was: Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs)

2007-05-15 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Tue May 15 17:25, Jason A. Spiro wrote: But one question: Do those license terms allow the songs to be distributed in a separate Debian package from the primary fretsonfire package? No, it will have to be amended to allow this as was suggested elsewhere in this thread. What if the

Re: Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto? (was: Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs)

2007-05-15 Thread Jason A. Spiro
2007/4/27, Jason Spiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/4/27, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] How about using: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd-nc/1.0/legalcode with 4. d. added saying: You may not distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly

Re: Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto? (was: Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs)

2007-04-27 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
El jueves, 26 de abril de 2007 a las 16:25:40 -0400, Jason Spiro escribĂ­a: I have dropped Tommi, Sami and Joonas from the Cc because I don't think they want to be bothered too much with this kind of things, and only care about the results. Feel free to correct me if that isn't the case. *

Re: Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto? (was: Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs)

2007-04-27 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Apr 26 21:16, Jason Spiro wrote: I don't know much about how to write licenses, and this is the first one I have ever written. I figured that everything after the subject to the following conditions: would automatically override the initial permissions I gave. I guess I was wrong?

Re: Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto? (was: Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs)

2007-04-27 Thread Jason Spiro
2007/4/27, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu Apr 26 21:16, Jason Spiro wrote: I don't know much about how to write licenses, and this is the first one I have ever written. I figured that everything after the subject to the following conditions: would automatically override the

Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto? (was: Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs)

2007-04-26 Thread Jason Spiro
2007/3/28, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue Mar 27 20:54, Jason Spiro wrote: 2007/3/27, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Jason Spiro wrote: Maybe if debian-legal or I wrote the license (I have never written a license before, but maybe I could

Re: Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto? (was: Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs)

2007-04-26 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Apr 26 16:25, Jason Spiro wrote: Copyright (C) year copyright holders Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this work (the Work) to use, modify, copy, publish, distribute, publicly perform, and/or sublicense copies of the Work, and/or to

Re: Could you please forward this proposed license to Teosto? (was: Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs)

2007-04-26 Thread Jason Spiro
Hi Matthew, 2007/4/26, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu Apr 26 16:25, Jason Spiro wrote: Copyright (C) year copyright holders Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this work (the Work) to use, modify, copy, publish, distribute,

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-30 Thread MJ Ray
Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Apparently, if you *haven't* signed with any collecting agencies, these folks automatically get the right to collect royalties for you. [...] it stinks to high heaven -- it's one of the political doublespeak moves where you create an organization

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-29 Thread Terry Hancock
Jason Spiro wrote: 2007/3/28, Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/28/07, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that's the contract you have to sign to be part of Teosto (which you have to do if you ever want to make a living in Finland as a musician). Ouch. As was

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-28 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Tue Mar 27 20:54, Jason Spiro wrote: 2007/3/27, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Jason Spiro wrote: Maybe if debian-legal or I wrote the license (I have never written a license before, but maybe I could modify the MIT license) we could get Teosto to agree on more

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Don Armstrong: Well, it actually seems rather strange to me for an organization which is designed to protect artists disallowing artists from determining how their own works are licensed, This is common practice for organizations that collect royalties on behalf of composers. If you want

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-28 Thread Matthew Johnson
On 3/28/07, Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/28/07, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it actually seems rather strange to me for an organization which is designed to protect artists disallowing artists from determining how their own works are licensed, so I'm trying

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-28 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 3/28/07, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that's the contract you have to sign to be part of Teosto (which you have to do if you ever want to make a living in Finland as a musician). Ouch. As was indicated earlier this seems standard for all performance rights organisations. --

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-28 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On 3/28/07, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that's the contract you have to sign to be part of Teosto (which you have to do if you ever want to make a living in Finland as a musician). Ouch. As was indicated

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-28 Thread Jason Spiro
2007/3/28, Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/28/07, Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that's the contract you have to sign to be part of Teosto (which you have to do if you ever want to make a living in Finland as a musician). Ouch. As was indicated earlier this seems

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-28 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes that's the contract you have to sign to be part of Teosto (which you have to do if you ever want to make a living in Finland as a musician). Please, ask Finland's *legislators* if the situation there is really that anti-competitive closed shop. I've

Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-27 Thread Jason Spiro
We have a question about the default songs for the guitar-simulation game Frets On Fire. (We would like to get the songs into main if possible; otherwise, into contrib or non-free. But we need to satisfy the Finnish music licensing organization Teosto. The full original thread is at

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
First off, thanks to all involved for working through this; legal stuff is annoying, but getting it right early makes it all worthwhile in the end. On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Jason Spiro wrote: We have a question about the default songs for the guitar-simulation game Frets On Fire. (We would like to

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Jason Spiro wrote: Maybe if debian-legal or I wrote the license (I have never written a license before, but maybe I could modify the MIT license) we could get Teosto to agree on more liberal terms than we would get if Teosto wrote one? The following is what I would use if

Re: Choosing a license for Frets on Fire songs

2007-03-27 Thread Jason Spiro
2007/3/27, Don Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Jason Spiro wrote: Maybe if debian-legal or I wrote the license (I have never written a license before, but maybe I could modify the MIT license) we could get Teosto to agree on more liberal terms than we would get if Teosto