Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 09:27:00PM +0200, Frank Mittelbach wrote: already the current license explicitly says that you can do whatever you wish if you are not distributing it (the current license suggests that it is best to always work as if you intend to distribute (because one day you might

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-27 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jeff Licquia [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 11:58, Jeff Licquia wrote: On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 16:36, Henning Makholm wrote: If you want to modify a package [say, one that is not part of the core LaTeX distribution, but one whose author has independently put

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread Frank Mittelbach
Henning Makholm writes: Scripsit Boris Veytsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? If a file is outside the LaTeX search path, there is no reason to keep it frozen. Actually the current LPPL explicitly gives you the right to change a licensed file

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: The license text would say something like this: - The Program may be modified in any way as long as one of the following conditions are met: - No part of Standard LaTeX is changed. The License should define what is meant

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 16:36, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Jeff Licquia [EMAIL PROTECTED] The license text would say something like this: - The Program may be modified in any way as long as one of the following conditions are met: - No part of Standard LaTeX is changed.

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 11:58, Jeff Licquia wrote: On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 16:36, Henning Makholm wrote: If you want to modify a package [say, one that is not part of the core LaTeX distribution, but one whose author has independently put it under the LPPL], you must either 1)

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 10:57, Branden Robinson wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: The license text would say something like this: - The Program may be modified in any way as long as one of the following conditions are met: - No part of

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:58:46AM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: The option 3 you propose would entail that two directory trees existed, one which is the original LaTeX, and one where the kernel is modified and renames but the rest of the files (say, third-party style files) may be modified

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread Boris Veytsman
From: Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 26 Jul 2002 12:20:43 +0200 Erm .. the *current* LPPL you say, being LPPL version 1.2? I cannot find any language in there that allows naming outside of the LaTeX search path. There seems to be no exceptions to condition (3) about not

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 14:18, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:58:46AM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: That is correct. However, causing a hacked, non-renamed, non-retokened file to be loaded and run by Standard LaTeX would be a license violation. No. Only distributing a

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread Frank Mittelbach
Branden Robinson writes: On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 11:58:46AM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: The option 3 you propose would entail that two directory trees existed, one which is the original LaTeX, and one where the kernel is modified and renames but the rest of the files (say, third-party

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-26 Thread David Carlisle
Why? If a file is outside the LaTeX search path, there is no reason to keep it frozen. Actually the current LPPL explicitly gives you the right to change a licensed file without renaming it, if you place it outside of the LaTeX search path. It does not recommend it, but is allowed

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-25 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jeff Licquia [EMAIL PROTECTED] The license text would say something like this: - The Program may be modified in any way as long as one of the following conditions are met: - No part of Standard LaTeX is changed. - The Program does not represent itself as Standard LaTeX

Re: Concluding the LPPL debate, try 2

2002-07-25 Thread Boris Veytsman
From: Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 25 Jul 2002 23:36:22 +0200 I can't imagine that it would be acceptable for the LaTeX people that a change in the LaTeX *kernel* would make it legal to hack in another file that, from their point of wiev, is part of an entirely different,