license clarity vs. jurisdiction (was: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL])

2004-07-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 02:34:00AM -0700, tom wrote: > <> O Martes, 13 de Xullo de 2004 ás 00:56:39 -0700, Sean Kellogg <> > back to B due to lack of communication facilities. The duty in > <> > will be discharged by the court under section 261 provided section > <263 is > <> > <> 95% of the

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:39:45PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Sean Kellogg wrote: > > On Monday 12 July 2004 11:45 am, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > While the imagery of a computer programmer sitting on a lonely > > > desert isle hacking away with their solar powered computer,

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-15 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andreas Barth wrote: > That's not true. It's just the other way, the Berne Convention is a > typical civil law construct. And a disastrous mistake, but never mind that! -- There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Sean Kellogg wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2004 11:45 am, Don Armstrong wrote: >> While the imagery of a computer programmer sitting on a lonely desert >> isle hacking away with their solar powered computer, drinking >> coconuts, and recieving messages in bottles might be silly, the rights >> that su

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-14 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Andreas Barth wrote: > * Sean Kellogg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040713 10:55]: > > With great respect to the 95% of the world population that does not live > > within the US... the great majority of the world does operate under laws > > derived from the common law system, which is embodied within the

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-14 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sean Kellogg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040713 10:55]: > With great respect to the 95% of the world population that does not live > within the US... the great majority of the world does operate under laws > derived from the common law system, which is embodied within the restatement > of law (there

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sean Kellogg wrote: > > [If you could also provide a cite to the 2nd Restatement of > > Contracts, that would also be appreciated. I'm not quite sure > > where it falls into the context of US legislation or case laws.] > > the restatements are an effort by the American Legal I

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Sean Kellogg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040712 21:15]: > > While the imagery of a computer programmer sitting on a lonely desert > > isle hacking away with their solar powered computer, drinking > > coconuts, and recieving messages in bottles might be silly, the rights > > that such a gedanken is prote

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Sean Kellogg wrote: > Even in the civil law societies > (most of continental Europe and Japan) the law has been adopted from the > United States post World War II, especially in the area of contract law where > global economies have force a homogenization of the law. In my experience this hom

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread tom
O Martes, 13 de Xullo de 2004 ás 00:56:39 -0700, Sean Kellogg > back to B due to lack of communication facilities. The duty in > will be discharged by the court under section 261 provided section <263 is <> <> 95% of the world population does not live in the US. < Aconsegueix [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread Sean Kellogg
> Please do. > > [If you could also provide a cite to the 2nd Restatement of Contracts, > that would also be appreciated. I'm not quite sure where it falls into > the context of US legislation or case laws.] I'll type up some case sites in the morning... in the mean time, I'll just say that the

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Tuesday 13 July 2004 01:06 am, Jacobo Tarrio wrote: > O Martes, 13 de Xullo de 2004 ás 00:56:39 -0700, Sean Kellogg escribía: > > back to B due to lack of communication facilities. The duty in question > > will be discharged by the court under section 261 provided section 263 is > > 95% of the

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Martes, 13 de Xullo de 2004 ás 00:56:39 -0700, Sean Kellogg escribía: > back to B due to lack of communication facilities. The duty in question will > be discharged by the court under section 261 provided section 263 is 95% of the world population does not live in the US. -- Tarrío (C

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Sean Kellogg wrote: > Programmer A receives code while on a desert island with a mostly > DFSG license attached to it that requires modification of the source > be sent back upstream (DUTY) to greedy corporation B. A modifies > the source, allowing him to eventually construct

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 12 July 2004 11:39 pm, Don Armstrong wrote: > I'm not familiar with the logic behind this.[1] Could you perhaps > elucidate and provide references to case law? > > I would imagine that you could get terms of a contract that were > impossible to fulfill thrown out, but I've not aware of a

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Sean Kellogg wrote: > On Monday 12 July 2004 11:45 am, Don Armstrong wrote: > > While the imagery of a computer programmer sitting on a lonely > > desert isle hacking away with their solar powered computer, > > drinking coconuts, and recieving messages in bottles might be > > s

Re: Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-12 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 12 July 2004 11:45 am, Don Armstrong wrote: > While the imagery of a computer programmer sitting on a lonely desert > isle hacking away with their solar powered computer, drinking > coconuts, and recieving messages in bottles might be silly, the rights > that such a gedanken is protecting

Desert Island Test [Re: DRAFT: debian-legal summary of the QPL]

2004-07-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Raul Miller wrote: > the above paragraphs have little relevance to anyone in debian. The > technical term for this condition is "silly". This particular test is basically expressing the idea that individuals shouldn't be compelled to distribute changes to individuals beyond t