Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs?

2005-07-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:20:18 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: > Personally, I think that we can make this distinction, but actually, > we shouldn't, at least for technical documentation which describes how > a program works. If we change the program, we sometimes need to > change the documentation. I

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-28 Thread Raul Miller
On 7/28/05, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050727 18:45]: > > On 7/27/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd prefer to approach this issue from a different direction. > > > > The point behind the DFSG is that we need to be able to solve

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs?

2005-07-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Francesco Poli: > But if you propose to disable DFSG#2 for non-programs, you have to > propose a criterion to tell programs and non-programs apart. > IOW, you must be able to tell when DFSG#2 must be applied and when it > may be ignored... It's enough if we are sufficiently confident that such

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-27 Thread Andreas Barth
* Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050727 18:45]: > On 7/27/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Uh, I don't? I said that the other guidelines are *applicable* to > > non-program works, and *should be applied* to non-program works -- not that, > > as presently written, we are obliged

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs?

2005-07-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:52:15 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:28:23AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > I fail to understand how you justify your reading of "program" as > > program in DFSG#2 while you read "program" as work in the other > > guidelines at the same time

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-27 Thread Raul Miller
On 7/27/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uh, I don't? I said that the other guidelines are *applicable* to > non-program works, and *should be applied* to non-program works -- not that, > as presently written, we are obliged to apply them to non-program works. I'd prefer to approac

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:28:23AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:17:35 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > > I think that clauses 6, 7, and 8 are applicable to documentation and > > data as well as to programs, and I think that they're rules that > > Debian should follow for ever

Re: Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:28:23 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote: [some hopefully useful contributions to the discussion, but with *wrong* Mail-Followup-To:] Please, ignore the wrong Mail-Followup-To: set in the my previous message. I forgot to disable it! :-( I really really apologize. Sylpheed authors

Does DFSG#2 apply to non-programs? [was: Re: generated source files, GPL and DFSG]

2005-07-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 05:17:35 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > I think that clauses 6, 7, and 8 are applicable to documentation and > data as well as to programs, and I think that they're rules that > Debian should follow for everything we distribute. > > I think that clause 2 is *not* clearly applic