Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-21 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Sun, Mar 21, 1999 at 02:46:00AM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > * Debian reserves the right to revoke the permission to use the term > `Debian', provided there is a good reason > > A bit vague, but it captures the above and gives us a bit more freedom. Why have the "provided there is a goo

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Darren Benham wrote: > * You are not allowed to use "Debian" in a way that the Debian Project > considers detrimental to its reputation. * Debian reserves the right to revoke the permission to use the term `Debian', provided there is a good reason A bit vague, but it captures the a

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-13 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 22:10:20 +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > I see a couple of remarks being made by people: > * we can't possibly check all uses of the term `Debian', either in > company, product or domainnames Domainnames is quite doable: http://www.domainsurfer.com Currently: Debian /

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-13 Thread Darren Benham
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 04:56:48PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 02:02:58PM -0800, Darren Benham wrote: > > * You are not allowed to use Debian in a way that would be detrimental to > > the reputation of the Debian Project. > > I considered something like this too, bu

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 02:02:58PM -0800, Darren Benham wrote: > * You are not allowed to use Debian in a way that would be detrimental to > the reputation of the Debian Project. I considered something like this too, but I can't come up with a good way to word it that would actually make a d

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-12 Thread Darren Benham
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 10:10:20PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > I see a couple of remarks being made by people: > * we can't possibly check all uses of the term `Debian', either in > company, product or domainnames > * people using Debian-derived products should be free to use the term >

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I see a couple of remarks being made by people: * we can't possibly check all uses of the term `Debian', either in company, product or domainnames * people using Debian-derived products should be free to use the term `Debian' * Putting the name Debian out there is good for us, since it makes

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-12 Thread Dale Scheetz
Please CC comments to me, as I am not subscribed to this list. On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > (Note I'm cc'ing debian-devel to get more interest in this discussion , > but please keep all the discussion itself on debian-legal) > > I see people sidestepping the real issue her

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-12 Thread Thaddeus Black
One can understand how concern would arise over the potential for random use and misuse of the Debian mark! To borrow an analogy given elsewhere, if I owned a Mercedes-Benz auto dealership, then, with Mercedes-Benz' permission, I might call the dealership Thaddeus Black Mercedes-Benz. Such a use

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-12 Thread Ben Pfaff
"J.H.M. Dassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 16:44:28 +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > I see people sidestepping the real issue here. The relevant question > is: do we have any problem with a company that uses the word `Debian' > in its name? To me, it would

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-12 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 16:44:28 +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > I see people sidestepping the real issue here. The relevant question > is: do we have any problem with a company that uses the word `Debian' > in its name? To me, it would depend a lot on how much emphasis "Debian" has in the compan

Re: fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
(Note I'm cc'ing debian-devel to get more interest in this discussion , but please keep all the discussion itself on debian-legal) I see people sidestepping the real issue here. The relevant question is: do we have any problem with a company that uses the word `Debian' in its name? And related: d

Re: Fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-11 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 17:45:35 -0700, Thaddeus Black wrote: > This message is to confirm that it would indeed be acceptable for a Debian > CD distributor to have the descriptive word Debian in its name. In the > same way that, say, Linux System Labs has the word Linux in its name. If > there were

Re: Fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-11 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 02:52:29 +, Paul Puri wrote: > In addition, I would also like to know what a Debian CD distributor > would be able to do with the logo. > > What are the license terms of the logo. Has it been trademarked? See http://www.debian.org/logos/ . Not however that new logo

Re: Fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-11 Thread John Hasler
Marcus writes: > Note that Debian is a trademark (I hope),... It is at least a common-law trademark. I don't know if those are still enforceable, though. > ...and this would prevent it from being used as a name for a company or > product in the computer business. Unless the owner grants permiss

Re: Fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 05:45:35PM -0700, Thaddeus Black wrote: > This message is to confirm that it would indeed be acceptable for a Debian > CD distributor to have the descriptive word Debian in its name. In the > same way that, say, Linux System Labs has the word Linux in its name. If > there

Re: Fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-11 Thread Paul Puri
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 3/10/99, 4:45:35 PM, Thaddeus Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Fair use of the word Debian: > This message i

Fair use of the word Debian

1999-03-11 Thread Thaddeus Black
This message is to confirm that it would indeed be acceptable for a Debian CD distributor to have the descriptive word Debian in its name. In the same way that, say, Linux System Labs has the word Linux in its name. If there were a reason a Debian CD distributor might not similarly be called Debi