Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-09 Thread Francesco Poli
uitable for main. It probably holds for GFDLv1.3 too, since GFDLv1.3 does not seem to be any more restrictive than GFDLv1.2. On the other hand, a nitpicker like me could point out that the winning option of GR-2006-001 explicitly speaks about the "GNU Free Documentation License version 1.2&qu

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Karl Goetz wrote: > This is not a strong feeling, simply a comment: > I find it strange to add a licence that was created with a very specific > goal in mind (relicencing wikipedia) which will expire in 9 months > (August next year). Ok. A good reason not to do it is enough. I

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-06 Thread Karl Goetz
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 17:53 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Hello. > > If the consensus is that GFDL 1.3 is as DFSG-compliant as it 1.2 was, > then I would like to include it in common-licenses in base-files for lenny > (in addition to 1.2, that is) as a "bonus". > > Reasons: > > * The symlink GFD

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-05 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. If the consensus is that GFDL 1.3 is as DFSG-compliant as it 1.2 was, then I would like to include it in common-licenses in base-files for lenny (in addition to 1.2, that is) as a "bonus". Reasons: * The symlink GFDL is supposed to point to the latest version available. * Works under GFDL

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:01 PM, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My web browser is an IceWeasel with NoScript I guess that would be the problem. Unfortunately Web 2.0 exists and seems to be here to stay. I would guess that letting the gplv3 site run JavaScript would fix your issues. -- bye,

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-05 Thread MJ Ray
"Paul Wise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > If your web browser cannot add comments for some reason (sounds pretty > broken if it cannot), you might want to use the contact form: [...] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] looks like the appropriate email address for > addressing your browser issues and [EMAIL PR

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:55 AM, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > stet is still broken and the Google Summer of Code work is MIA, so > where should comments be sent? Commenting works for me and others: http://gplv3.fsf.org/comments/rt/readsay.html?Query=%20%27CF.NoteUrl%27%20LIKE%20%27gfdl-dra

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-04 Thread MJ Ray
"Paul Wise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] they are still taking comments toward the draft, so make > sure all relevant comments are sent to the FSF. GFDL 1.3 FAQ, GFDL 2.0 > draft: > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3-faq.html > http://gplv3.fsf.org/fdl-draft-2006-09-22.html stet is still br

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder how we should consider the fact they did not remove nor > rephrase this obnoxious clause. Back in the FDL discussions, it was > commonly accepted that this was a honest mistake and that it was going > to be fix

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 03 novembre 2008 à 18:28 +0100, Simon Josefsson a écrit : > 2. VERBATIM COPYING > You may not use > technical measures to obstruct or control the reading or further > copying of the copies you make or distribute. I wonder how we should consider the fact they did not remove nor rephrase t

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-03 Thread MJ Ray
"Wesley J. Landaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 03 November 2008 10:28:39 Simon Josefsson wrote: > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3.html > > According to the FSF FAQ, the main change is that it allows certain > GFDL-licensed wiki's to relicense. It otherwise isn't really any diffe

Re: GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-03 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Monday 03 November 2008 10:28:39 Simon Josefsson wrote: > I expect the GFDLv1.3 license will be used by several projects soon. > Thoughts on its DFSG-status? > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3.html According to the FSF FAQ, the main change is that it allows certain GFDL-licensed wiki's to

GNU Free Documentation License v1.3

2008-11-03 Thread Simon Josefsson
I expect the GFDLv1.3 license will be used by several projects soon. Thoughts on its DFSG-status? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3.html License quoted below for easy commenting. /Simon GNU Free Documentation License Version 1.3, 3 November 2008 Copyright

Re: GNU Simpler Free Documentation License: discussion draft

2008-08-25 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:51:25 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:05:44 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > > [...] > > > The FSF has a draft license named the "Simpler Free Documentation > > > Lice

Re: GNU Simpler Free Documentation License: discussion draft

2008-08-24 Thread Ben Finney
Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:05:44 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > [...] > > The FSF has a draft license named the "Simpler Free Documentation > > License" http://gplv3.fsf.org/doclic-dd1-guide.html>; that > > page says t

Re: GNU Simpler Free Documentation License: discussion draft

2008-08-24 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:05:44 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Howdy all, Hi! [...] > The FSF has a draft license named the "Simpler Free Documentation > License" http://gplv3.fsf.org/doclic-dd1-guide.html>; that page > says that the SFDL was published in draft form on 2006-09

GNU Simpler Free Documentation License: discussion draft

2008-08-23 Thread Ben Finney
Howdy all, The 'debian-legal' forum is not an ideal place to discuss licenses in the absence of a work to which the license is applied. Nevertheless, one license that has caused considerable fuss is the GNU "Free Documentation License", or FDL. The FSF has a draft license nam

Re: Debian and the GNU Free documentation license

2003-10-06 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 03:42:02PM -0500]: > Hi folks, > >It's been a few days since my last message. I have added a print > style sheet, so one can use a free Browser (mozilla) to print the > position statement. I have added a couple of new examples, an > inchoate softw

Re: Debian and the GNU Free documentation license

2003-10-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi folks, It's been a few days since my last message. I have added a print style sheet, so one can use a free Browser (mozilla) to print the position statement. I have added a couple of new examples, an inchoate software documentation freedoms list, and I have started an outline of the form

About the GNU Free Documentation License

2000-10-11 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
hi all, i am not subscribed to debian-legal and i know that the argument has been already submitted, but i want to make some comments of the gnu fdl. imho, nothing in it can design a document released under fdl as non-free. we had a discussion about the fact that maybe dfsg are not applic

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-13 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 08:30:08PM -0400, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > I think we have a problem here. The DFSG clearly does not apply to > documentation, just like the GPL. As the FSF created a new license, we need > to create guidelines to what we consider a "free documentation", as in free > spe

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-13 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 08:30:08PM -0400, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: > > Personally, I have to wonder if this type of thing is DFSG-free: > > I think we have a problem here. The DFSG clearly does not apply to > documentation, just like the GPL. As the FSF created a new license, we need > to create

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-13 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 12:45:13AM +, Jules Bean wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:12:13PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > Jules Bean wrote: > > > > > > Since it doesn't apply to software, that's a non-issue. > > > > I'm very tempted to go package up, say, the quake1 level files and try to >

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-12 Thread Jules Bean
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:12:13PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Jules Bean wrote: > > > > Since it doesn't apply to software, that's a non-issue. > > I'm very tempted to go package up, say, the quake1 level files and try to > upload them to main. After all, they're not software, so who gives a hoot

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-12 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> Personally, I have to wonder if this type of thing is DFSG-free: I think we have a problem here. The DFSG clearly does not apply to documentation, just like the GPL. As the FSF created a new license, we need to create guidelines to what we consider a "free documentation", as in free speech.. =)

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-12 Thread Joey Hess
Jules Bean wrote: > > Since it doesn't apply to software, that's a non-issue. I'm very tempted to go package up, say, the quake1 level files and try to upload them to main. After all, they're not software, so who gives a hoot if they violate the DFSG? > It does, once again, re-raise the issue of

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-11 Thread Jules Bean
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:54:20AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Jordi wrote: > > Should this new license be included in base-files? > > That seems very premature. Best wait until > > 1) It is a common-license > 2) debian-legal has vetted it > > Personally, I have to wonder if this type of thing is

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-11 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 04:54:20AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Personally, I have to wonder if this type of thing is DFSG-free: > > If you publish printed copies of the Document numbering more than 100, > and the Document's license notice requires Cover Texts, you must enclose > the copies in

Re: Free Documentation License

2000-03-11 Thread Joey Hess
Jordi wrote: > Should this new license be included in base-files? That seems very premature. Best wait until 1) It is a common-license 2) debian-legal has vetted it Personally, I have to wonder if this type of thing is DFSG-free: If you publish printed copies of the Document numbering more th