Re: GPL-3 & openssl: provide a -nossl variant for a library

2014-10-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:56:39 +0800 Paul Wise wrote: [...] > Bradley Kuhn says that for GPLv2-only works Debian should not consider > OpenSSL to be a system library but for works where the GPLv3 can > apply, SSL/TLS is likely a "Standard Interface" and thus subject to > the "System Library" excepti

Re: GPL-3 & openssl: provide a -nossl variant for a library

2014-10-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > But Fedora, whose policies Richard Fontana helped to shape over the > years, considers OpenSSL to be a library covered by the system library > exception. We discussed this on #faif[1] and: Richard Fontana says the OpenSSL-system library ex

Re: GPL-3 & openssl: provide a -nossl variant for a library

2014-10-23 Thread Robert Collins
On 23 Oct 2014 02:03, "Thorsten Glaser" wrote: ... > > > Where it is clear it is indeed a concern. Note that Fontana is both a > > lawyer, and co-author of the GPLv3. > > And a RedHat employee. Was :) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Fontana

Re: GPL-3 & openssl: provide a -nossl variant for a library

2014-10-23 Thread Riley Baird
> But Fedora, whose policies Richard Fontana helped to shape over the > years, considers OpenSSL to be a library covered by the system library > exception. Afaict, Fedora does not consider every package that they offer to be part of the operating system, whereas Debian does. > In practice, the FS

Re: GPL-3 & openssl: provide a -nossl variant for a library

2014-10-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > The problem is that Debian is the operating system distributing the system > libraries, and that all packages Debian distributes are *also* part of that > same operating system. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/10/msg00113.html > https://people.gnome.

Re: GPL-3 & openssl: provide a -nossl variant for a library

2014-10-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Jelmer Vernooij dixit: > >Samba is unlikely to add such an exception. > > So just make OpenSSL a system library finally. It has always been a system library in Debian. The problem is that Debian is the operating system distributing the system librari