Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-31 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Thanks Brian and Richard. If the upstream author gives signs of live, I'll give up this change. He's been MIA for about 6 weeks. Peter Brian Ristuccia wrote: > Still not quite right. This doesn't deal with the fact that xforms might > come on the same media as the program. I think John or Ric

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-30 Thread Raul Miller
Brian Ristuccia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may, at your option and for the purposes of distributing this program in > object code or executable form under Section 3 of the GNU General Public > License, assume that the complete source code for this program does not > include the xforms library

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-30 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 01:48:51PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > 1- read the rest of the email and you'll notice the further > change to: > > You may, at your option and for the purposes of distributing this > program in object code or executable form under Section 3 of the GNU > General

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-30 Thread Richard Braakman
Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Richard Braakman wrote: > > > That won't work. The additional permission granted doesn't help us, > > since we also distribute Qt itself. > > 1- read the rest of the email and you'll notice the further > change to: Sorry, elm only showed me the first part because

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread John Hasler
Peter S Galbraith writes: > You may, at your option and for the purposes of distributing this program > in object code or executable form under Section 3 of the GNU General > Public License, assume that the xforms library (Copyright (c) by > T.C. Zhao and Mark Overmars) is normally distributed with

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Richard Braakman wrote: > Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > I'd like to change the license (currently GPL) like this: > > > >Additionally, you are granted permission to > > assume, for the purposes of distributing this program in object code or > > executable

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread Peter S Galbraith
John Hasler wrote: > Peter writes: > > However, I'm confident he would sue us if that makes a difference? > > I assume you meant to write "...he wouldn't sue..."? Sorry. Right. > Most of the authors who publish under whacky non-free licenses probably > wouldn't sue. Lawsuits are not the onl

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 02:59:35PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > I'd like to change the license (currently GPL) like this: > > > > This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it > > under the terms of the GNU General Public License a

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread Richard Braakman
Peter S Galbraith wrote: > I'd like to change the license (currently GPL) like this: > > This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it > under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the > Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the L

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread John Hasler
Peter writes: > However, I'm confident he would sue us if that makes a difference? I assume you meant to write "...he wouldn't sue..."? Most of the authors who publish under whacky non-free licenses probably wouldn't sue. Lawsuits are not the only reason to be careful, though. We also want to m

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work

1999-05-28 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Henning Makholm wrote: > Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So, Debian might be happy because they have clarified that > > linking against XForms is okay. But, am I to conclude that > > Debian doesn't agree with their argument that while they were > > using the GPL without clar

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-28 Thread Peter S Galbraith
John Hasler wrote: > > Would adding the email from the copyright holder be enough of a > > clarification? > > Perhaps. Can we see the email? It's a bunch of separate emails, some even asking me to take up complete maintainership of the first package (xwatch) and saying I can edit the license t

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-28 Thread John Hasler
Peter S Galbraith writes: > In your above example, the _hydrid_ would be created and > distributed by the owner of the copyright, and it still couldn't > go into Debian. Right? That is the Debian policy. It is not one I agree with, but I was outvoted and I see no point in further debating the po

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work

1999-05-28 Thread Henning Makholm
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, Debian might be happy because they have clarified that > linking against XForms is okay. But, am I to conclude that > Debian doesn't agree with their argument that while they were > using the GPL without clarification they were still okay > lice

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-28 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 09:32:53AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > Mark Rafn wrote: > > > On the gripping hand, if the owner of the copyright for abiword (which may > > not be a well-defined entity if significant contributions have been made > > by multiple people under GPL) chooses to link a

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-28 Thread Raul Miller
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a little weird to me. If the upstream author links against > Qt or XForms and releases under the GPL, doesn't that nullify > whatever GPL clause against that? The GPL doesn't have a clause against that. The GPL has clauses about distribution of

GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-28 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Mark Rafn wrote: > On the gripping hand, if the owner of the copyright for abiword (which may > not be a well-defined entity if significant contributions have been made > by multiple people under GPL) chooses to link against restricted libs, > that's fine and dandy, as permission to do so is gran