Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:23:00AM +0100, Claus F?rber wrote: > Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote: > > Nobody will think that General Motors has endorsed this package or > > this OS because there's a picture of a Humvee in there. > > The Hummer might actually be a problem if i

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:23:00AM +0100, Claus F?rber wrote: > Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote: > > Nobody will think that General Motors has endorsed this package or > > this OS because there's a picture of a Humvee in there. > > The Hummer might actually be a problem if i

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Claus Färber
Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote: > Nobody will think that General Motors has endorsed this package or > this OS because there's a picture of a Humvee in there. The Hummer might actually be a problem if its shape is a registered design (called "design patent" in the US). Even

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Claus Färber
Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote: > Nobody will think that General Motors has endorsed this package or > this OS because there's a picture of a Humvee in there. The Hummer might actually be a problem if its shape is a registered design (called "design patent" in the US). Even

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Daniel Goldsmith
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:53:32 -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > > > You've got the Freemason logo in there feature for feature! > > That's not "original

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-12 Thread Daniel Goldsmith
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:53:32 -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > > > You've got the Freemason logo in there feature for feature! > > That's not "original

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: >> clearly what it is". Duracell has no right in law to stop others from >> depicting black oblongs with copper ends. They *do* have a right to > > I dare you to package the golden

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:38:34PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > I dare you to package the golden arches as clipart. > Or Mr. Peanut. What good would that accomplish? [I'm hoping you can give me a meaningful answer.] Also, is there some reason to represent a "Mr. Peanut" instead of just a regu

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: >> clearly what it is". Duracell has no right in law to stop others from >> depicting black oblongs with copper ends. They *do* have a right to > > I dare you to package the golden

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > clearly what it is". Duracell has no right in law to stop others from > depicting black oblongs with copper ends. They *do* have a right to I dare you to package the golden arches as clipart. Or Mr. Peanut. You've got the F

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:36:19AM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > Removal of the pacman image is the > only one that I can see any case for at all Even if this were once true (which I doubt), there's no chance that anybody still has a valid trademark on pacman; it's diluted to the point of being co

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:38:34PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > I dare you to package the golden arches as clipart. > Or Mr. Peanut. What good would that accomplish? [I'm hoping you can give me a meaningful answer.] Also, is there some reason to represent a "Mr. Peanut" instead of just a regu

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: >> He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is >> selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing >> to do with Debian, and he'd be doing

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 02:10:26PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > clearly what it is". Duracell has no right in law to stop others from > depicting black oblongs with copper ends. They *do* have a right to I dare you to package the golden arches as clipart. Or Mr. Peanut. You've got the F

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > > He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is > > selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing > > to do with Debian, and he'd be doing so whether or no

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is > selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing > to do with Debian, and he'd be doing so whether or not this clip art > were nearby. K

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:36:19AM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > Removal of the pacman image is the > only one that I can see any case for at all Even if this were once true (which I doubt), there's no chance that anybody still has a valid trademark on pacman; it's diluted to the point of being co

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: >> He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is >> selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing >> to do with Debian, and he'd be doing

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: > Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's > hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. > > How are these different? Without knowing context and intent, we cannot answer; since you have not related that to Debian, I do not wish to go into

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's > hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. > > How are these different? They're not. Look! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1312774.stm There's one now. It's perfect

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:16:24AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's > hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. > > How are these different? Context is everything. - David Nusinow

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. How are these different?

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > Regarding > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html > I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked > logo and diluting their trademark. > I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Na

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > > He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is > > selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing > > to do with Debian, and he'd be doing so whether or no

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > He might violate their trademarks -- say by proclaiming that he is > selling Humvees when actually selling Pintos. But that's got nothing > to do with Debian, and he'd be doing so whether or not this clip art > were nearby. K

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > Regarding > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html > > I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked > logo and diluting their trademark. > > I'm also going to write letters to Duracell

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: > Regarding > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html > > I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked > logo and diluting their trademark. > > I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco, and Hummer. > > I don't think

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > Regarding > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html > > I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked > logo and diluting their trademark. > > I'm also going to write letters to Duracell

I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco, and Hummer. I don't think it's right to distribute other people's tra

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: > Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's > hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. > > How are these different? Without knowing context and intent, we cannot answer; since you have not related that to Debian, I do not wish to go into

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's > hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. > > How are these different? They're not. Look! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1312774.stm There's one now. It's perfect

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:16:24AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's > hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. > > How are these different? Context is everything. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
Why not include the McDonald's logo or a picture of a McDonald's hamburger? I'd like to include that on my website. How are these different? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > Regarding > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html > I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked > logo and diluting their trademark. > I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Na

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread David Nusinow
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > Regarding > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html > > I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked > logo and diluting their trademark. > > I'm also going to write letters to Duracell

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Michael Poole
William Ballard writes: > Regarding > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html > > I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked > logo and diluting their trademark. > > I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco, and Hummer. > > I don't think

Re: I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:57:46AM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > Regarding > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html > > I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked > logo and diluting their trademark. > > I'm also going to write letters to Duracell

I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their trademark

2005-01-11 Thread William Ballard
Regarding http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00312.html I'll let the Freemasons know Debian is distributing their Trademarked logo and diluting their trademark. I'm also going to write letters to Duracell, Namco, and Hummer. I don't think it's right to distribute other people's tra