Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-07 Thread MJ Ray
Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] A court is going to consider what the apparent intent was -- not try to stretch the meaning beyond the obvious. Intent is not written on the paper. It seemed obvious to me that this clause hinders binaries. It seemed obvious to Florian Weimer that it

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-06 Thread MJ Ray
Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, what I *said* is that tools are not materials, which they are not -- at least not unless you use them as such. If you build a house out of hammers, *then* the hammers are materials, otherwise, they are tools. So, to be clear: you would claim that if

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-06 Thread Terry Hancock
MJ Ray wrote: Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, what I *said* is that tools are not materials, which they are not -- at least not unless you use them as such. If you build a house out of hammers, *then* the hammers are materials, otherwise, they are tools. So, to be clear: you would

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-05 Thread Terry Hancock
Martin Millnert wrote: 7. no permission is granted to distribute, publicly display, or publicly perform modifications to the Distribution made using proprietary materials that cannot be released in source format under conditions of this license; Section 7 seems suspicious. Isn't that just

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
Martin Millnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] 7. no permission is granted to distribute, publicly display, or publicly perform modifications to the Distribution made using proprietary materials that cannot be released in source format under conditions of this license; [...] Section 7 seems

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-05 Thread Terry Hancock
MJ Ray wrote: Martin Millnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] 7. no permission is granted to distribute, publicly display, or publicly perform modifications to the Distribution made using proprietary materials that cannot be released in source format under conditions of this license; [...]

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] MJ Ray wrote: 7. no permission is granted to distribute, publicly display, or publicly perform modifications to the Distribution made using proprietary materials that cannot be released in source format under conditions of this license; Is this saying

Re: License concerns regarding package lft

2007-06-05 Thread Terry Hancock
MJ Ray wrote: Terry Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, in your opinion, houses are not made using tools and binary packages are not made using compilers? No, what I *said* is that tools are not materials, which they are not -- at least not unless you use them as such. If you build a house out of

License concerns regarding package lft

2007-05-31 Thread Martin Millnert
Hello Debian Legal, I stumbled upon a package, lft, and noticed that the distributed packaged was somewhat of age. I looked it up and found quite updated source at the program developers webpage [1]. So I pondered over why this is not included; maybe the package maintainer is just asleep. Then