Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-16 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Sunday 15 February 2009 10:49:17 pm Ben Finney wrote: Joe Smith unknown_kev_...@hotmail.com writes: This new version is the very definition of a function too trivial to copyright That's a pretty strong assertion. The “very definition of” as defined where? Or what, exactly, are you

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-16 Thread Joe Smith
Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote in message news:874oyuq3ki@benfinney.id.au... Joe Smith unknown_kev_...@hotmail.com writes: This new version is the very definition of a function too trivial to copyright That's a pretty strong assertion. The “very definition of” as defined

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-16 Thread Ben Finney
Joe Smith unknown_kev_...@hotmail.com writes: Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote in message news:874oyuq3ki@benfinney.id.au... Joe Smith unknown_kev_...@hotmail.com writes: This new version is the very definition of a function too trivial to copyright That's a pretty

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-16 Thread Ben Finney
Sean Kellogg skell...@gmail.com writes: On Sunday 15 February 2009 10:49:17 pm Ben Finney wrote: Moreover, I'm not aware of a valid legal theory that use of variable names or whitespace have any bearing on whether a particular work is subject to copyright. Then you aren't looking very

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-15 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Saturday 07 February 2009 06:21:55 Colin Turner wrote: ... the code is so astonishingly trivial ... Given this, why not just take 10 minutes and reimplement it? -- Wesley J. Landaker w...@icecavern.net xmpp:w...@icecavern.net OpenPGP FP: 4135 2A3B 4726 ACC5 9094 0097 F0A9 8A4C 4CD6 E3D2

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-15 Thread Joe Smith
Colin Turner c...@piglets.com wrote in message news:498d8af3.7030...@piglets.com... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I hope you can help and advise on this issue. I am packaging a web application for Debian, I am also the principal upstream author. The code is generally

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-15 Thread Ben Finney
Joe Smith unknown_kev_...@hotmail.com writes: This new version is the very definition of a function too trivial to copyright That's a pretty strong assertion. The “very definition of” as defined where? Or what, exactly, are you claiming? You also seem to be under the misapprehension that “to

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-09 Thread Ben Finney
Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net writes: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: 1) The safe way: See what it does, describe someone else not knowing the code to write code doing this for you and use that code. Does that actually work? The description is a derivative work of the

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-09 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net [090209 05:39]: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: 1) The safe way: See what it does, describe someone else not knowing the code to write code doing this for you and use that code. Does that actually work? The description is a derivative work of

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-09 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 09 February 2009 03:08:14 am Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net [090209 05:39]: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: 1) The safe way: See what it does, describe someone else not knowing the code to write code doing this for you and use that code.

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-09 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Ben Finney dijo [Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 07:24:22PM +1100]: 1) The safe way: See what it does, describe someone else not knowing the code to write code doing this for you and use that code. Does that actually work? The description is a derivative work of the code; I don't think

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-08 Thread Walter Landry
Colin Turner c...@piglets.com wrote: Hi All, I hope you can help and advise on this issue. I am packaging a web application for Debian, I am also the principal upstream author. The code is generally GPL v2 PHP. Over the years the project inherited, from a side project, a small fragment of

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-08 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: 1) The safe way: See what it does, describe someone else not knowing the code to write code doing this for you and use that code. Does that actually work? The description is a derivative work of the code; the new code is a derivative work of the

License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-07 Thread Colin Turner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I hope you can help and advise on this issue. I am packaging a web application for Debian, I am also the principal upstream author. The code is generally GPL v2 PHP. Over the years the project inherited, from a side project, a small fragment

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-07 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 498d8af3.7030...@piglets.com, Colin Turner c...@piglets.com writes Hi All, I hope you can help and advise on this issue. I am packaging a web application for Debian, I am also the principal upstream author. The code is generally GPL v2 PHP. Over the years the project inherited, from

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-07 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Colin Turner c...@piglets.com [090207 14:43]: The problem I have is that the code is, like so much JS, sitting available, apparently for general consumption on several websites. I have been unable to acquire a license from any of the authors (no reply to emails) and the code is so

Re: License issue on tiny Javascript fragment

2009-02-07 Thread Colin Turner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anthony, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: to emails) and the code is so astonishingly trivial it's hard to see how it could possibly be re-implemented without it being the same code with different variable names. This is your clue. If this is