Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-26 Thread Liam Quinn
We're proposing the following as a new licence for the WDG reference material. From the earlier discussion on this list, I believe that this licence meets the DFSG. Comments and suggestions are very welcome. The files in this package may be freely modified and redistributed under the follow

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-17 Thread John Hasler
Arnoud writes: > Is it required for debian free software/documentation that other people > can just cut&paste from the work without the need for attributions? You can require attribution. > As I understand it, the amount of text you can cite under "fair use" is > not formally defined,... It's th

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-17 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 11:53:40AM +, Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet wrote: > As I understand it, the program TeX is public domain, but the name TeX is a > trademark held by the American Mathematics Society (AMS). Yes, TeX is a trademark of AMS, and its use is regulated by the TRIP test. Howeve

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-17 Thread Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet
On 16 Apr 1999 16:05:17 -0500, John Hasler wrote: >Arnoud writes: >> And if you want to use a small portion of our text, you're citing from >> our work, so that's already covered in copyright law (you must give us >> credit, not cite more than necessary, etc). > >Under "fair use" I can quote from y

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-16 Thread John Hasler
Arnoud writes: > And if you want to use a small portion of our text, you're citing from > our work, so that's already covered in copyright law (you must give us > credit, not cite more than necessary, etc). Under "fair use" I can quote from your text for critical or educational purposes, but I can

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-16 Thread Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet
On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:43:28 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: >> I was thinking more along the line of "If you make modifications, please send >> them to us for review. If we approve of them, we'll add them to the official >> distribution and give you appropriate credit. Otherwise, you must > above>.

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 12:05:38PM +, Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet wrote: > Ok, so it's allowed to require something like this: > > If you make modifications to the reference, you must document them in the > file CHANGELOG when you distribute them, and you must change the notice "(C) > Copyrig

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-16 Thread Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:49:58 +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: >BTW, TeX is not in the public domain. Its license is quite hard to >decipher, although it is generally considered free. As I understand it, the program TeX is public domain, but the name TeX is a trademark held by the American Ma

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-16 Thread Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet
On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:27:22 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: >> The essential difference between software and documentation IMO is that for >> the former, it's more important what it does than what it has internally. If >> I can rewrite your code so it does the function better or safer, there >> sho

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 11:33:13AM +, Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet wrote: > > The essential difference between software and documentation IMO is that for > the former, it's more important what it does than what it has internally. If > I can rewrite your code so it does the function better or s

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-15 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 11:33:13AM +, Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet wrote: > Similarly, the TeX typesetting program > is public domain, but may only be distributed as TeX if the program passes a > certain test. Are these licenses considered free? Name change requirement is OK. Certainly Mozill

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-15 Thread Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:58:44 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: >On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 09:23:23PM +, Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet wrote: >> I've looked at the debian license, but it only seems to cover programs, not >> documentation like this. Is there a need to make reference materials also >> "

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-14 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, On Sun, Apr 11, 1999 at 09:23:23PM +, Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet wrote: > The problem is that we don't want modified versions of the reference > materials floating around. We've had some bad experiences with people who > inserted their own ad banners, or even modified the text to "correc

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-11 Thread Arnoud 'Galactus' Engelfriet
On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:08:51 +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >Previously Liam Quinn wrote: >> I'm looking for advice on how to overcome these concerns and allow the >> references to be included in the main Debian distribution. > >I'm not online so I can't check your references, but I think saying in

Re: Modification of reference material

1999-04-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Liam Quinn wrote: > I'm looking for advice on how to overcome these concerns and allow the > references to be included in the main Debian distribution. I'm not online so I can't check your references, but I think saying in the license that a modified version can not be distributed using

Modification of reference material

1999-04-07 Thread Liam Quinn
Hi, I maintain some HTML and CSS references in HTML and other formats [1]. The current usage guidelines [2] prevent inclusion of the references in the main Debian distribution, but I would like to correct this by issuing new guidelines for using the references. I don't mind having the references