Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-11-06 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 02:07:15PM +, Wookey wrote: > [ It's possible that this is different in American English - much as > they don't distinguish beteen 'ensure' (make sure) and 'insure' (buy > insurance), using 'insure' for both? In which case if the EULA is written > by/for Americans then i

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-11-06 Thread Wookey
Branden wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 10:47:06PM +0100, Mika Fischer wrote: > > --- > > The UnrealIRCd Team reserves the right to modify this agreement at anytime > > as > > long as notice is given on the unrealircd.com main page at least 24 hours > > before changes take effect. The modified

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-11-03 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 17:03, Sam Hartman wrote: > But I have encountered click-through licenses that did not require me > to agree to such conditions and that were click-throughs for DFSG > licenses. I have never found a click-through for a GPL subset. http://easysw.com/htmldoc/software.php Stri

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 10:47:06PM +0100, Mika Fischer wrote: > --- > The UnrealIRCd Team reserves the right to modify this agreement at anytime as > long as notice is given on the unrealircd.com main page at least 24 hours > before changes take effect. The modified agreement will only effect new

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-29 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 05:03:13PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > Yes it would be. > > But I have encountered click-through licenses that did not require me > to agree to such conditions and that were click-throughs for DFSG > licenses. I have never found a click-through for a GPL subset. > > I sim

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-29 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Henning" == Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Henning> Scripsit Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Branden> Requiring a click-through license acceptance ceremony is, Branden> in and of itself, incompatible with the GNU GPL. This is Branden> because it makes requireme

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-29 Thread Mika Fischer
Hi! I talked to the author again and he made clear that retroactive modification of the license agreement was not intended and proposed the following rewrite: --- The UnrealIRCd Team reserves the right to modify this agreement at anytime as long as notice is given on the unrealircd.com main pag

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Branden> Requiring a click-through license acceptance ceremony is, > Branden> in and of itself, incompatible with the GNU GPL. This is > Branden> because it makes requirements of the user that the GNU > Branden> GPL itself does not. > On

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-29 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Branden> On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 03:31:38PM -0500, Sam Hartman Branden> wrote: >> It's unclear from the text you quoted whether they are >> reserving the change the license on future downloads, which >> IMHO is fin

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-29 Thread Branden Robinson
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Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The question is: Does this EULA pose any problem for Debian distributing > > UnrealIRCd (which is GPLed)? > Hell yes. Why? As far as I can see, it contains nothing but a run-of-the-mill warranty disclaimer. The last paragraph about change withou

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-28 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 03:31:38PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > It's unclear from the text you quoted whether they are reserving the > change the license on future downloads, which IMHO is fine for Debian > or reserving the right to change the license of existing downloads > which has the problems y

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-28 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The question is: Does this EULA pose any problem for Debian >> distributing UnrealIRCd (which is GPLed)? Branden> Hell yes. Branden> This is certainly DFSG-nonfree and probably Branden> GPL-incompatible. The

Re: New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-28 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:05:17PM +0100, Mika Fischer wrote: > After confering with the head developer it turned out that the main use of > the > EULA was to be on the safe side especialy regarding the contained > cryptographic code. [...] > In order to continue with the download and installati

New EULA of UnrealIRCd

2002-10-28 Thread Mika Fischer
Hi! [please CC me, I'm not on this list] Some weeks ago I already posted a message regarding the EULA the UnrealIRCd developers have on their website. After confering with the head developer it turned out that the main use of the EULA was to be on the safe side especialy regarding the containe