Re: Re-release restrictions (was: OpenDivX license)

2001-01-25 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> > In context of the above, someone should be able to modify > > and use the software in a way not conformant to the MPEG-4 specifications, > > but the license is fine in saying that modification can't be redistributed > > (just as I can't distribute software that violates the GPL). > > I'm terri

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-25 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> I think Debian (and OSI) needs to decide whether or not this is a > philosophy they reject, and thus patch the hole in the DFSG/OSD. Or, > ignore it until it becomes an actual issue. It was this kind of > ambiguity, as well as a lack of general public interest in seeing problems > in the OSD/DF

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-25 Thread Brian Behlendorf
s of rights to redistribution of modified versions. > Thus, the OpenDivx license is in violation of the DFSG. > > References: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal-0012/msg00109.html > > Among others. (for some reason the search engine for -legal isn't > working so we

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-25 Thread Sam TH
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 03:40:39PM -0600, Sam TH wrote: > > References: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal-0012/msg00109.html > > Among others. (for some reason the search engine for -legal isn't > working so well). Another reference: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal-0006/msg00041.htm

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-25 Thread David Starner
ot quietly on debian-legal. > Debian-legal has repeatedly held that requiring or prohibiting > particular behavior as a condition of distributiing modified versions > is in violation of the Fields of Endeavor clause of the DFSG. > > Thus, the OpenDivx license is in violatio

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-25 Thread Sam TH
e DFSG has been consistenly interpreted to mean that some aspect of a license is or is not free, then that should be taken to be a real factor in our deliberations. Its application here would be thus: Debian-legal has repeatedly held that requiring or prohibiting particular behavior as a conditio

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-25 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Joseph Carter wrote: > 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor > > The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program > in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the > program from being used in a business, or f

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-25 Thread Joseph Carter
ed that modified version, we'd > > all agree that minimum, such a term like #6 in the so-called OpenDivX > > license violates DFSG #3. > > "Must allow" doesn't mean "Must allow unconditionally". The OpenDiVX > license allows modifications a

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-24 Thread Brian Behlendorf
were Apache, and the copyright holder would accuse me of breech of > contract for modifying the software to listen on a different port and accuse > me of copyright infringement if I distributed that modified version, we'd > all agree that minimum, such a term like #6 in the so-called OpenDi

Re: Re-release restrictions (was: OpenDivX license)

2001-01-24 Thread Sam TH
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:26:30AM -0700, Wesley W. Terpstra wrote: > On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 01:31:12PM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > > In context of the above, someone should be able to modify > > and use the software in a way not conformant to the MPEG-4 specifications, > > but the license is

Re-release restrictions (was: OpenDivX license)

2001-01-24 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 01:31:12PM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > In context of the above, someone should be able to modify > and use the software in a way not conformant to the MPEG-4 specifications, > but the license is fine in saying that modification can't be redistributed > (just as I can't

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-23 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 08:01:27PM +0100, Davide Puricelli wrote: > 1. You may use the Codec (and any Larger Work created by you) to > create Encoded Content, and may use, copy, distribute, display and > transmit that Encoded Content, provided that Encoded Content may not > be used for direct comme

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-23 Thread Brian Ristuccia
that modified version, we'd all agree that minimum, such a term like #6 in the so-called OpenDivX license violates DFSG #3. -- Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-23 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Brian Ristuccia wrote: > It's not an open source license. Term #6 places limitations on distributing > modified copies. Erm, so does every copyright license. To be specific, it sounds like your concern is over adherence to a standard being one of the conditions for redistrib

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-23 Thread Samuel Hocevar
I contacted the Project Mayo guys a few weeks ago about this, telling them that I was worried about this license which they claim (and probably want) to be OpenSource, and which obviously isn't. They don't seem to see the issues as real problems. A few other people are trying to convince them as

Re: OpenDivX license

2001-01-23 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 08:01:27PM +0100, Davide Puricelli wrote: > Hi, I'd like to hear some comments about OpenDivX license that it's attached > below: > > DivX Open License > = > Version 1.0 > > Copyright (C) 2001 Project Mayo. Everyone is

OpenDivX license

2001-01-23 Thread Davide Puricelli
Hi, I'd like to hear some comments about OpenDivX license that it's attached below: DivX Open License = Version 1.0 Copyright (C) 2001 Project Mayo. Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.