Re: Origins of debian swirl / does Debian want to keep its trademark?

2005-08-07 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm wrote: On the other hand, it is difficult to imagine that the Elektrostore swirl is independently created starting from a straight brush stroke. Now, Debian really ought to be complaining about this.

Re: Origins of debian swirl / does Debian want to keep its trademark?

2005-08-07 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm wrote: it might be argued that by making the swirl blue and turning it such that it invokes an the idea of an e, it is not anymore sufficiently confusable with Debian's logo that the trademark is violated. You don't think it is?

Re: Origins of debian swirl / does Debian want to keep its trademark?

2005-08-06 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm wrote: On the other hand, it is difficult to imagine that the Elektrostore swirl is independently created starting from a straight brush stroke. Now, Debian really ought to be complaining about this. There was an attempt to make this

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-08-05 Thread Alexis . Papadopoulos
The possible Toy Story connection is mearly an interesting coincedence. The current logo was decided by vote. The releases being named after Toy Story characters is offically approved by Pixar. (The first release of Debian was made while a Pixar employee was head of the project. The Debian

Re: Origins of debian swirl / does Debian want to keep its trademark?

2005-08-05 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Henning Makholm wrote: On the other hand, it is difficult to imagine that the Elektrostore swirl is independently created starting from a straight brush stroke. http://henning.makholm.net/debian/swirls.xcf is the logo bar from www.elektrostore.se, with a genuine Debian swirl in another layer -

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-08-04 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Alexis Papadopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having recently watched the Toy Story movies, I realized that the swirl was present on Buzz' chin. Look here for instance : http://www.pixar.com/featurefilms/ts/ It is clear that there is A swirl, but it's not THE Debian swirl. It swirls the

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-08-04 Thread Joe Smith
Why don't we just find the creator and ask him? The original image is named raul-0.gif, so somebody named Raul made the image. (Was this Raul D. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]) What makes me really fear that the image may be a very generic is one image that looks the same except the jaggedness of

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-08-04 Thread Joe Smith
Joe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Why don't we just find the creator and ask him? The original image is named raul-0.gif, so somebody named Raul made the image. (Was this Raul D. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]) What makes me really fear that the image may be a

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-08-04 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Joe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-08-04 13:47]: Why don't we just find the creator and ask him? The original image is named raul-0.gif, so somebody named Raul made the image. (Was this Raul D. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]) No, Raul Silva. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-08-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:24:11 +1000, Simon Wright wrote: It's a simple, generic stroke of rough charcoal, a standard brush shape that ships with Adobe Illustrator. Actually, it's one of the five defaults that appear in the brushes pallete when you begin any new document I don't see any

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-08-03 Thread Alexis Papadopoulos
Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:24:11 +1000, Simon Wright wrote: It's a simple, generic stroke of rough charcoal, a standard brush shape that ships with Adobe Illustrator. Actually, it's one of the five defaults that appear in the brushes pallete when you begin any new

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-08-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, one could wonder who was first. I'm not blatantly assuming Adobe just took the swirl without looking at our copyright, but then it's not entirely impossible either. It ought to be possible for someone to dig up a pre-1999 version

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-08-03 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scripsit Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fact that this wave of other usages of the swirl is fairly recent (or is that a perception on my side?) The first case I remember is http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/07/msg00167.html On the

Re: Origins of debian swirl

2005-06-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On 6/19/05, Simon Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a simple, generic stroke of rough charcoal, a standard brush shape that ships with Adobe Illustrator. Actually, it's one of the five defaults that appear in the brushes pallete when you begin any new document. I don't see any problem

Origins of debian swirl

2005-06-19 Thread Simon Wright
It's a simple, generic stroke of rough charcoal, a standard brush shape that ships with Adobe Illustrator. Actually, it's one of the five defaults that appear in the brushes pallete when you begin any new document. I don't see any problem with this, but I thought it should be mentioned...