Re: Poly/ML license

2004-05-10 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On May 9, 2004, at 13:44, MJ Ray wrote: I think I remember being told that this is a normal habit of English copyright lawyers, but it has a similar effect. I wish I remembered whether there were any differences. Might it be different in the effect of license terminations?

Re: Poly/ML license

2004-05-09 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-05-09 09:33:48 +0100 Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Weirdly, instead of the usual system where everyone gets a license from the original copyright holder, this grants everyone the right to sublicense under the same agreement. I think it has much the same effect, but it's

Re: Poly/ML license

2004-05-09 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Camm Maguire wrote: > Greetings! Is the following DFSG free? No. Clickwrap. And it wants to be a contract. Which is bad to start with. It requires you to give any "Improvements" you make to the original Licensor on demand. That's non-free. To do whatever they like with them, in fact, includ

Re: Poly/ML license

2004-05-08 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-05-08 10:33:44 +0100 Arnoud Engelfriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Effectively, these clauses say "you must send us all your improvements and license us to do whatever we want with them." That is the general problem with the Poly/ML licence, yes.

Re: Poly/ML license

2004-05-08 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Mahesh T. Pai wrote: > > 4. The copyright and other intellectual property rights of > > whatever nature in any improvements, enhancements or modifications > > to the source code of the Software or which necessitate access to > > the source code of the Software in order to be com

Re: Poly/ML license

2004-05-06 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-05-16 10:41:11 +0100 Mahesh T. Pai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is void in most jurisdictions since most jurisdictions require that assignment of copyright has to be in writing. AFAIK, English law too requires assignment in writing. That is my understanding too.

Re: Poly/ML license

2004-05-06 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
> Please read this licence and click on the Accept button at the > bottom if you are happy to accept it. > Before downloading Poly/ML you must read and agree to the licence > below. If you are downloading this in order to make it available > to others, for example to install it o

Re: Poly/ML license

2004-05-05 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2004-05-05 14:41:23 +0100 Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Greetings! Is the following DFSG free? > > No, it forces disclosure upstream. See > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200207/msg00011.html > OK, tha

Re: Poly/ML license

2004-05-05 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-05-05 14:41:23 +0100 Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings! Is the following DFSG free? No, it forces disclosure upstream. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200207/msg00011.html I am researching free software licences written for UK law at the

Poly/ML license

2004-05-05 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! Is the following DFSG free? Take care, -- Camm Maguire[EMAIL PROTECTED] == "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." -- Baha'u'llah