Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-18 Thread Nathanael Nerode
MJ Ray wrote: > Also note that the size of quote is really very limited. The so-called > creativity threshold is fairly low (FSF estimates it can be as low as 15 > lines of code > http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Legally-Significant.html#Legally-Significant > ), so the 'cited' code has

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-18 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Michael Poole wrote: > I am an American and not familiar with continental European systems, > but the Berne Convention and its implementation in the USA agree with > you. Article 10 of the Berne Convention[1] requires compliance with > "fair practice" when quoting another's program, and Article 1

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-03 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Krzysztof Siewicz wrote: > Arnoud Engelfriet napisa?(a): > > If you make a valid quote, the license (if any) of the work is > > completely irrelevant. > > Actually, there is jurisprudence in Poland that parties to a contract > may limit or precise what they consider to be fair use of work. If this

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-02 Thread Krzysztof Siewicz
Hi! Arnoud Engelfriet napisał(a): > Does Polish copyright law not have a restriction that the _purpose_ > of the quote must be something like criticism, announcement, debate > and so on? That's what most countries have. Yes it does - they are in the same art. 29: "to the extent justified by expla

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-02 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Krzysztof Siewicz wrote: > Art. 29 allows to quote fragments of already published works or small > works in whole, if it may be explained by, inter alia, ???laws of the type > of arts???. Does Polish copyright law not have a restriction that the _purpose_ of the quote must be something like criti

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-02 Thread Krzysztof Siewicz
Dear All, I am a Polish lawyer currently preparing a doctorate on the protection of user freedoms. I have written on the scope of GPLv2's copyleft clause under Polish law (the link to the Polish version of the article is: http://ksiewicz.net/?p=17, I am working at making my page bilingual and the

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-01 Thread MJ Ray
Sebastian Wangnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377109;msg=186 ] > Mr. Schilling claims the following: > In Europe, we have the "Recht auf das wissenschaftliche Kleinzitat" > that allows us to cite other works without asking in case that

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-01 Thread Michael Below
Michael Below schrieb: As far as I understand part of the argument with Mr. Schily is about Makefiles, these might be trivial (I'm no programmer). I got the name wrong, sorry for that: It's Jörg Schilling. Michael Below -- Michael Below Rechtsanwalt www.judiz.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-01 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 01 September 2006 14:43, Sebastian Wangnick wrote: > Dear folks, > > in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377109, Mr. Schilling > claims the following: > > In Europe, we have the "Recht auf das wissenschaftliche Kleinzitat" > that allows us to cite other works w

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-01 Thread Michael Below
Sebastian Wangnick schrieb: So the "Recht auf das wissenschaftliche Kleinzitat" allows a European author to "quote" small portions of e.g. GPL code without asking the author for permissions. The European "Urheberrecht" on the other side forbids a minor contributo

Re: Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-01 Thread Michael Poole
I am an American and not familiar with continental European systems, but the Berne Convention and its implementation in the USA agree with you. Article 10 of the Berne Convention[1] requires compliance with "fair practice" when quoting another's program, and Article 12 reserves the right of adapta

Reusing GPL code without applying GPL legal in Europe?

2006-09-01 Thread Sebastian Wangnick
Dear folks, in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377109, Mr. Schilling claims the following: In Europe, we have the "Recht auf das wissenschaftliche Kleinzitat" that allows us to cite other works without asking in case that the quoted text (or images) is no