Though I'm not well versed in French, nor do I
understand French humor, but I get the feeling by browsing the site a bit that
this is some weird form of comedy. Obviously API is not a trademarked term,
that's a joke. A few links on the site make puns with what they're linking to
(The link fo
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
To: "Chloe Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: debian-legal@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: complete clone of the debian website
Date: 07 Jun 2000 20:46:33 -0400
"Chloe Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "All
"Chloe Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "All rights reserved" is not necessary. This is just a legacy from the past
> which I believe is no longer required - you had to use that language in
> order to get certain protections in some Latin America countries but no
> longer. All rights are
s.debian.org
Subject: Re: complete clone of the debian website
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:33:31 -0400 (EDT)
On 2000-06-02 at 13:55 -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 12:47:31PM -0400, Mike Bilow wrote:
> > I recognize your point, but there is enormous uncertainty wheth
holm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-legal@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: complete clone of the debian website
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 12:47:31 -0400 (EDT)
On 2000-06-02 at 12:07 -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 12:01:23PM -0400, Mike Bilow wrote:
> > Yes, but it is not
> > Is this the same kind of uncertainty that exists about whether computer
> > source is subject to copyright protection at all?
On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 02:33:31PM -0400, Mike Bilow wrote:
> Copyright protects the "essential character" of a "work of
>authorship."
>
> In the case of a computer pro
On 2000-06-02 at 13:55 -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 12:47:31PM -0400, Mike Bilow wrote:
> > I recognize your point, but there is enormous uncertainty whether HTML
> > source is subject to copyright protection at all, as distinct from
> > rendered HTML. The problem is that co
On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 12:47:31PM -0400, Mike Bilow wrote:
> I recognize your point, but there is enormous uncertainty whether HTML
> source is subject to copyright protection at all, as distinct from
> rendered HTML. The problem is that copyright protects, by definition,
> an actual expression of
On 2000-06-02 at 17:46 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Mike Bilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* * *
> >Further, it is doubtful that invisible (that is,
> >unrendered) parts of the HTML source, such as META tags, could be
> >protected by copyright at all.
>
> Clearly, however, such tags are more impo
On 2000-06-02 at 12:07 -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 12:01:23PM -0400, Mike Bilow wrote:
> > Yes, but it is not clear to me that this is a violation of the OPL. The
> > problem is that the OPL is overwhelmingly concerned with, and written
> > subject to the assumption that,
Mike Bilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 2000-06-02 at 11:08 +0200, Peter Makholm wrote:
>> Have you seen the source from the API-website?
>>
>> That haven't even changed the meta-tags, from the debian website. It
>> is clearlky, to me, that they have copied the html and chenged the
>> text.
[.
On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 12:01:23PM -0400, Mike Bilow wrote:
> Yes, but it is not clear to me that this is a violation of the OPL. The
> problem is that the OPL is overwhelmingly concerned with, and written
> subject to the assumption that, it is protecting something equivalent to a
> book. This m
On 2000-06-02 at 11:08 +0200, Peter Makholm wrote:
> Mike Bilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > artistic character. It is also not clear to me whether the API web site,
> > with entirely new text, is a derivation from or an aggregation with the
>
> Have you seen the source from the API-websit
Mike Bilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> artistic character. It is also not clear to me whether the API web site,
> with entirely new text, is a derivation from or an aggregation with the
Have you seen the source from the API-website?
That haven't even changed the meta-tags, from the debian web
On 2000-06-01 at 13:56 +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Joey Hess wrote:
> > http://www.491.org/projets/api/
>
> Nice. Time to write them a letter I guess. How about something like this:
>
> --
>
> We recentl
Title: RE: complete clone of the debian website
Has anyone else thought of the fact that API is a really general term applied to every platform and piece of software known... It's sort of like Microsoft trademarking windows, or Debian trade-marking unix-like system (not that they did
Today, Ronald L. Chichester wrote:
> Yet another alternative is to post the issue on Slashdot
> (http://slashdot.org). If they are in the development community at
> all, they'll get the message and do something about it. Its a
> rather rough alternative (getting Slashdotted negatively is a harsh
Today, Ronald L. Chichester wrote:
> Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>
> > Today, Ronald L. Chichester wrote:
> > > Maybe they might give us advice pro bono, considering the non-profit
> > > nature of
> > > our organization.
> > Another possibility: contact them and tell them the pages have been
Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
>
> Another possibility: contact them and tell them the pages have been
> inspired by your site, as proven by the logo, and that it bothers you as
> such. I browsed the pages, it looks like a small company, they will
> certainly correct this quickly. It depends if Deb
Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
> Today, Ronald L. Chichester wrote:
> > Maybe they might give us advice pro bono, considering the non-profit nature
> > of
> > our organization.
>
> Another possibility: contact them and tell them the pages have been
> inspired by your site, as proven by the logo, a
Today, Ronald L. Chichester wrote:
> > > Previously Joey Hess wrote:
> > > > http://www.491.org/projets/api/
> > >
> > > Nice. Time to write them a letter I guess. How about something like this:
>
> Might I suggest contacting a French law firm as the alleged infringer is a
> French organization.
> > Previously Joey Hess wrote:
> > > http://www.491.org/projets/api/
> >
> > Nice. Time to write them a letter I guess. How about something like this:
Might I suggest contacting a French law firm as the alleged infringer is a
French organization. A quick contact to a French law firm would enable
On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 01:56:07PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Previously Joey Hess wrote:
> > http://www.491.org/projets/api/
>
> Nice. Time to write them a letter I guess. How about something like this:
Sounds OK.
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Previously Joey Hess wrote:
> http://www.491.org/projets/api/
Nice. Time to write them a letter I guess. How about something like this:
--
We recently became aware of your website at http://www.491.org/projets/api/ .
Unf
> And doesn't their use of the Debian logo break the license?
I'd say yes. The logo license says:
: Debian Open Use Logo License
:
: Copyright (c) 1999 Software in the Public Interest
:
: This logo or a modified version may be used by anyone to refer to
: the Debian project, but does not indi
Andrew Weiss wrote:
> So can we forward Debian's license page to them and demand removal?
At least the respect of the license (probably refer back to the
original and use the same license; they can't really decide to
copy our stuff and change the license in it!)
> What exactly can be done about
Joey Hess:
> http://www.491.org/projets/api/
> Shocking.
And when stealing the HTML code, they even forgot to remove the reference
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the creator.
And doesn't their use of the Debian logo break the license?
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Title: RE: complete clone of the debian website
So can we forward Debian's license page to them and demand removal? What exactly can be done about people with no creativity whatsoever?
Andrew
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Joey Hess wrote:
> http://www.491.org/projets/api/
>
> Shocking.
Also see their license link at the bottom!
http://www.491.org/projets/api/license.html
: License
:
: Copyright © 1997-1998 Application Programming Interface (API_France)
: 06 rue des Petits Hôtels
: 75010 Paris
http://www.491.org/projets/api/
Shocking.
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