Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-12 Thread Hendrik Weimer
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Le dimanche 11 janvier 2009 à 21:25 +0100, Hendrik Weimer a écrit : The only case I am aware of where another distro refuses to distribute a package found in Debian is Fedora's stance on afio. If you know of other cases, I would be interested to learn

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-11 Thread MJ Ray
Hendrik Weimer hend...@enyo.de wrote: It is a fact that Debian more often rejects packages present in other distros than the other way around. Which I believe is a good sign, BTW. Is that a fact? Where's the evidence? A quick web search didn't find a good study, but it might exist. I found

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-11 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 11 January 2009 15:22:25 MJ Ray wrote: Hendrik Weimer hend...@enyo.de wrote: It is a fact that Debian more often rejects packages present in other distros than the other way around. Which I believe is a good sign, BTW. Is that a fact? Where's the evidence? A quick web search

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-11 Thread Hendrik Weimer
MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop writes: Hendrik Weimer hend...@enyo.de wrote: It is a fact that Debian more often rejects packages present in other distros than the other way around. Which I believe is a good sign, BTW. Is that a fact? Where's the evidence? A quick web search didn't find a

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 11 janvier 2009 à 21:25 +0100, Hendrik Weimer a écrit : The only case I am aware of where another distro refuses to distribute a package found in Debian is Fedora's stance on afio. If you know of other cases, I would be interested to learn about them. There’s also the case of MP3

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-11 Thread Simon Josefsson
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Le dimanche 11 janvier 2009 �Á� 21:25 +0100, Hendrik Weimer a �Á�crit : The only case I am aware of where another distro refuses to distribute a package found in Debian is Fedora's stance on afio. If you know of other cases, I would be interested to

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-10 Thread Florian Weimer
* Kern Sibbald: Problems of mismatched licenses apparently occur when forming and distributing a mixed binary program or when mixing different licenced source code in the same file and distributing it. As far as I know Bacula 2.4.x does not mix source code with different licenses in the

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-10 Thread Florian Weimer
* MJ Ray: Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but please don't state it as fact. I believe that Debian's policy on licensing is generally to try to do what we think the software and licence authors intended, but to be fairly cautious because we don't have big money or fast lawyers and it

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-09 Thread MJ Ray
Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: I suggest you Google up user does the link. [...] I suggest you just post the URL(s) you mean. Google results pages are highly volatile and vary by browser location: what you saw then may not be what I see now. It also seems unkind to tell upstream

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-09 Thread MJ Ray
Hendrik Weimer hend...@enyo.de wrote: [...]. However, Debian's policy on licensing usually involves taking the high road rather than doing what you can get away with. [...] Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but please don't state it as fact. I believe that Debian's policy on licensing is

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-09 Thread Hendrik Weimer
MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop writes: Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but please don't state it as fact. I believe that Debian's policy on licensing is generally to try to do what we think the software and licence authors intended, but to be fairly cautious because we don't have big

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-09 Thread Ken Arromdee
(Here goes an email with actual content, since I messed up...) I suggest you Google up user does the link. [...] I suggest you just post the URL(s) you mean. Google results pages are highly volatile and vary by browser location: what you saw then may not be what I see now. You don't

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-08 Thread Jeff Licquia
Ken Arromdee wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Kern Sibbald wrote: 1. Build it from source yourself (perfectly legal -- only distribution violates the GPL license). Isn't it the FSF's position that user does the link violates GPL? No. Please read the GPL. I suggest you Google up user does the

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-08 Thread Hendrik Weimer
Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com writes: I personally don't believe that such distribution is a problem -- after all Debian does distribute pure GPLv2 code and OpenSSL source code on the same ISO image. This should not be a problem anyway as it falls under the mere aggregation clause. Problems

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-07 Thread Hendrik Weimer
Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com writes: 1. Build it from source yourself (perfectly legal -- only distribution violates the GPL license). The question is whether it is legal to distribute the Bacula sources (including parts depending on OpenSSL) to begin with. These are uncertain legal grounds

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-07 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 21:59:45 Hendrik Weimer wrote: Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com writes: 1. Build it from source yourself (perfectly legal -- only distribution violates the GPL license). The question is whether it is legal to distribute the Bacula sources (including parts

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-06 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Kern Sibbald wrote: 1. Build it from source yourself (perfectly legal -- only distribution violates the GPL license). Isn't it the FSF's position that user does the link violates GPL? No. Please read the GPL. I suggest you Google up user does the link. Unless

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-05 Thread Thomas Stegbauer
Hello everybody, thanx for all your answer's. I think Version 3 wont make it into Debian 5.0 Lenny :( so the only solution for me would be to compile the version by my own on each needed machine, what is imho unhappy, but if this is the only solution :( hopefully the licence's of version 3 are

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-05 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com [090104 19:21]: The current released version (2.4.x) series under an interpretation that OpenSSL is not a system library routine, which is Debian's position, means that they cannot distribute Bacula with OpenSSL enabled (Bacula communications and data

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-05 Thread Ken Arromdee
1. Build it from source yourself (perfectly legal -- only distribution violates the GPL license). Isn't it the FSF's position that user does the link violates GPL? Of course, even then, that only applies to distribution--which means that the user can build it from source himself, but the

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-05 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Monday 05 January 2009 23:08:33 Ken Arromdee wrote: 1. Build it from source yourself (perfectly legal -- only distribution violates the GPL license). Isn't it the FSF's position that user does the link violates GPL? No. Please read the GPL. Of course, even then, that only applies to

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-04 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello, The current released version (2.4.x) series under an interpretation that OpenSSL is not a system library routine, which is Debian's position, means that they cannot distribute Bacula with OpenSSL enabled (Bacula communications and data encryption). The source code does exist, but is

enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-03 Thread Thomas Stegbauer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello everybody, a happy new year to all. as i figured currently out, bacula on debian is unable to encryption the data. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/07/msg00144.html what can be done this get solved within debian 5.0 lenny?

Re: enabling transport and on storage encryption in bacula on debian build

2009-01-03 Thread John Goerzen
Thomas Stegbauer wrote: hello everybody, a happy new year to all. as i figured currently out, bacula on debian is unable to encryption the data. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/07/msg00144.html what can be done this get solved within debian 5.0 lenny? Please see