mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
Hi legal folks! Is this a condition to move proftpd-ldap in non-free? I think the additional condition of postcard requesting is a GPL violation. Quoted from author's site: mod_ldap is distributed under the GPL, with an additional explicit clause to allow linking against OpenSSL. As of mo

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 01:06:22PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > Any hints are welcome :) -- Francesco P. Lovergine

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Simon Law
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 03:13:02PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 01:06:22PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > > > Any hints > > are welcome :) Send him a postcard with the appropriate GPL section highlighted. Simon

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Mark Rafn
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > Is this a condition to move proftpd-ldap in non-free? > I think the additional condition of postcard requesting is a GPL > violation. Bleh. It's not clear that this use condition has any meaning - the GPL allows distribution and nothing requ

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Simon Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Send him a postcard with the appropriate GPL section > highlighted. Um, but what is the appropriate GPL section? It is clear to us that what the author is trying to do is not compatible with claiming it is GPL'ed - but the reason *why* it's incompati

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Simon Law
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:51:27PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Simon Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Send him a postcard with the appropriate GPL section > > highlighted. > > Um, but what is the appropriate GPL section? It is clear to us that > what the author is trying to do is no

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:51:27PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > > Send him a postcard with the appropriate GPL section > > highlighted. > > Um, but what is the appropriate GPL section? It is clear to us that > what the author is trying to do is not compatible with claiming it is > GPL'ed -

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:51:27PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > > > Send him a postcard with the appropriate GPL section > > > highlighted. > > Um, but what is the appropriate GPL section? > these terms and conditions. You may not impose any fur

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:14:26PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > > these terms and conditions. You may not impose any further > > ^^ > > restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein. > > ^^^

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Nick Phillips
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 03:22:18PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > > Yes, but that doesn't bind the author (assuming that he has the sole > > copyrigt on the program). > > It does in a sense--it prevents people from using the GPL and adding > additional restraints; at least according to this interp

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Glenn Maynard
It's strange to me that, in this interests of finding out how many people are using his module, he'd add a restriction that would immediately cause a great number of people to stop using it. On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 03:13:02PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > Any hints > > are welcome

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Nick Phillips wrote: > There is nothing to stop an author making a statement that "You may > copy distribute and modify this work under the terms of the GPL in > combination with the following extra conditions, which shall override > the GPL in cases of conflict". The author c

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-31 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:14:26PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > > > these terms and conditions. You may not impose any further > > > ^^ > > > restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the ri

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-31 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:14:26PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:51:27PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > > > > > Send him a postcard with the appropriate GPL section > > > > highlighted. > > > > Um, but what is th

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-01-31 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 03:03:21PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > I disagree with the suggestion that the author could be made to > realize this merly by mailing him the text of the GPL with a few > passages underlined but no further explanation. No argument there. -- Glenn Maynard

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-02-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:37:11AM +1300, Nick Phillips wrote: > > "Review the text of the GNU GPL and note the many times it makes > > reference to "this License". The GNU GPL is a self-contained license > > document. A copyright holder is well within his rights to distribute a > > work under th

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-02-04 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 06:01 am, Branden Robinson wrote: Branden, I think you're off-the-mark here. There is nothing to stop an author making a statement that "You may copy distribute and modify this work under the terms of the GPL in combination with the following extra conditio

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-02-05 Thread Branden Robinson
[your linewrapping is weird] On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 08:56:32AM +1300, Nick Phillips wrote: > >"those alternative terms cannot restrict the licensing of the work > >under > >the GPL, or the application of the GPL is void." > > > >...because it's not the GPL anymore. It's a something-else license

Re: mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)...

2003-02-01 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 03:53:14PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:14:26PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > > Scripsit Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:51:27PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > > > > > > > Send him a postcard w

Update to [mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)]

2003-03-06 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
Hi -legal folks John changed license in 1.2.11 and released again with a full GPL license, removing post-card condition, (he thanks for our plain and polite management of the issue - for -legal people, hip hip hurrah!!! :) ). So we could go straight with proftpd 1.2.8. The release currently in s

Update to [mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)]

2003-03-06 Thread Glenn Maynard
> So we could go straight with proftpd 1.2.8. The release currently > in sid will be updated as a consequence. > The license problem unfortunately applies to woody release, also. > Maybe should we propose an update for this in r2? IMHO we could > consider to add a note in its README.Debian. Unluc

Re: Update to [mod_ldap for proftpd is now post-card licensed (proftpd 1.2.7+)]

2003-03-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:49:29AM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > The license problem unfortunately applies to woody release, also. > Maybe should we propose an update for this in r2? IMHO we could > consider to add a note in its README.Debian. Unluckily, 1.2.11 is not > functionally the sa