On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 03:29:03PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
Chris Lawrence wrote:
It highly inconveniences our users, however. No part of the Social
Contract says protesting stupid laws is more important than our users.
How does it inconvencience our users?
a) None looks for mailing
Chris Lawrence wrote:
It highly inconveniences our users, however. No part of the Social
Contract says protesting stupid laws is more important than our users.
How does it inconvencience our users?
It also inconveniences the Debian maintainer, who has to maintain two
different forks of the
On Nov 18, Joey Hess wrote:
I still think mutt belongs in non-US. Why are people so opposed to putting
it there? Putting a program like this in non-US just points out that the US
government's laws are so brain-dead that they consider a mail reader a
munition, thus raising public awareness of
Brian Ristuccia writes:
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 11:31:19AM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote:
Brian Ristuccia writes:
Wouldn't seizing said machines violate the electronic communication
privacy
act or something similar by interefering with email on those machines as
well?
The
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 14:36:56 -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
The Debian mutt package also continues to ignore the wishes of mutt's
upstream authors, who do belive mutt contains crypto hooks, and who only
make the version available from outside the US for that reason.
Mutt's current primary
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Bruce Perens wrote:
From: Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What has changed that allows us to distribute mutt from the US to people
outside of the US despite the fact that mutt is capable of integrating with
strong encryption software and thereby capable of performing
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 02:00:34AM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
Just to make clear I'm understanding the situation; does mutt have
anything that could be interpreted as hooks to encryption, even if it
doesn't have crypto code as part of the package? Or are scripts
instructions on how to
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Joseph Carter wrote:
If you think about prime numbers near the Mexican borders the US could try
to say you're exporting crypto. We made the decision that a simple run
this seperate program and pipe output back to me cannot reasonably be
considered encryption hooks.
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 09:22:09AM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
And frankly speaking for only myself as a citizen of the US and not as a
developer here, the US government can shove their crypto regs someplace
unpleasant---I refuse to comply with them on the grounds that they are an
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 09:22:09AM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
If you think about prime numbers near the Mexican borders the US could try
to say you're exporting crypto. We made the decision that a simple run
this seperate program and pipe output back to me cannot reasonably be
Brian Ristuccia writes:
Wouldn't seizing said machines violate the electronic communication privacy
act or something similar by interefering with email on those machines as
well?
The ECPA doesn't prevent police from seizing computer hardware when they
have a warrant, although it would be fun
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 11:31:19AM -0800, Seth David Schoen wrote:
Brian Ristuccia writes:
Wouldn't seizing said machines violate the electronic communication privacy
act or something similar by interefering with email on those machines as
well?
The ECPA doesn't prevent police from
Joseph Carter wrote:
The software provides configuration file options which allow you to run
any arbitrary program through standard functions used for running any and
every program on the system and captures the results. This does not
constitute hooks for encryption, though it arguably would
It's too much of a slippery slope. Put something with 3000 lines of crypto
hooks in non-US. Then 300 lines. Then 30. Then anything that runs exec().
Bruce
On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 04:14:33PM -0600, Chris Lawrence wrote:
P.S. Obligitory NSA flag (and why the hell is Ortega in it?):
Tactical thermonuclear salsa?
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From: Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What has changed that allows us to distribute mutt from the US to people
outside of the US despite the fact that mutt is capable of integrating with
strong encryption software and thereby capable of performing strong
encryption on messages it sends?
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