Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2009-07-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:50:08PM +0100, James Bonfield a écrit : Following on from this I'm pleased to say the upstream staden-read library now has incorporated full libtool support and I hope appropriate versioning too. (Thanks Charles for the patches.) Thank you very much, I have updated

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2009-07-28 Thread James Bonfield
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:28:36PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: The linker actually cares about the library interface, not the library version. If you remove or change interface, Debian will have to rev the library version (e.g. from libstaden-read.so.1 to libstaden-read.so.2), regardless of

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2009-07-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:23:12AM +0100, James Bonfield wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 01:57:10PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I finally almost finished the packaging of a libtoolized version of the Staden io_lib, which we agreed to rename libstaden-read in Debian, following what is

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2009-07-16 Thread James Bonfield
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:28:36PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: The linker actually cares about the library interface, not the library version. If you remove or change interface, Debian will have to rev the library version (e.g. from libstaden-read.so.1 to libstaden-read.so.2), regardless of

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2009-06-03 Thread James Bonfield
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 01:57:10PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I finally almost finished the packaging of a libtoolized version of the Staden io_lib, which we agreed to rename libstaden-read in Debian, following what is already done in Fedora. Indeed the name change we already agreed on -

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2009-06-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 02:07:58PM +0100, James Bonfield a écrit : If you wish to only have one copy io_lib then that's doable. You may wish to change the build system to use dynamic libraries instead or just face that the build of the staden package programs will be statically linked. Dear

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-09-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, James Bonfield wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:04:39PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I just realised while browsing the WWW that in Fedora libread was renamed libstaden-read.

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-09-02 Thread Tim Cutts
On 2 Sep 2008, at 10:50 am, Andreas Tille wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, James Bonfield wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:04:39PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I just realised while browsing the WWW that in Fedora libread was renamed libstaden-read.

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-09-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 01:37:09PM +0100, Tim Cutts a écrit : Wow - stop the presses. Everyone agrees with each other. This has to be some sort of record in any Debian-related community. :-) Hmmm, this goes too well. Here is a licence issue to syphon this enthousiasm ;) In the latest

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-09-02 Thread James Bonfield
On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 11:08:09PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I am affraid that our archive administrators will object that this licence does not give the right to redistribute (not to mention to copy and modify), and that there is no sign that the permission given to the upstream authors is

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-08-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 04:55:32PM +0100, James Bonfield a écrit : Maybe I should just give up and embrace the libtool abomination like the rest of the planet! It probably now works properly on the few remaining systems that anyone still supports. Hello, I posted a very naive patch for this

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-08-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 02:07:58PM +0100, James Bonfield a écrit : Agreed on the io_lib name too - it's pretty atrocious, but I'm assuming the name was picked (it predates my work on it) as it was originally just an internal part of a larger package and not distributed separately. Hello

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-08-29 Thread James Bonfield
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:04:39PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: I just realised while browsing the WWW that in Fedora libread was renamed libstaden-read. http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/updates/testing/8/x86_64/staden-io_lib-devel-1.11.2.1-2.fc8.i386.html What is your opinion about

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Cutts
On 8 Jul 2008, at 4:55 pm, James Bonfield wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 04:32:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Ideally I'd like to rewrite the entire staden build system to use something like autoconf (although maybe one of the newer alternatives that isn't such a dogs breakfast when it

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Cutts
On 8 Jul 2008, at 1:13 pm, Andreas Tille wrote: IMHO we are not in a hurry with this. But I want to use this chance to ping our fellow Debian developers at Sanger to consider some cooperation with the internal Debian project that really targets at their application. In principle, I'm

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Tim Cutts wrote: In principle, I'm more than happy to help out, but as with everything else, my time is limited. ... Sure - we talked about this at DebConf last year and I also remember the reasons you mentioned why you are not using packaged versions. It would be stupid

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 07:08:12AM +0100, Tim Cutts a écrit : 1) Frequently, different groups in the Institute want different versions of the same program to be available, which is hard if we use packaged versions. Hi all, this is a very good point. Actually, the situation is similar

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Cutts
On 9 Jul 2008, at 7:42 am, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Tim Cutts wrote: In principle, I'm more than happy to help out, but as with everything else, my time is limited. ... Sure - we talked about this at DebConf last year and I also remember the reasons you mentioned why

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 09:09:48AM +0100, Tim Cutts a écrit : I package some of the perl modules we need, such as AcePerl Oh, our ITP #468760 :) I have a detailed debian/copyright file, so if you send us your debian/rules and debian/control, we may have a pacakge for free :) We plan to give

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread James Bonfield
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 10:10:09AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: I do not know about --root option but when snapshot.debian.net was functional I used this and pinning via /etc/apt/preferences. If you implement some snapshot.debian.net like repository and educate users At the risk of exploding a

dpkg --root / klik (Was: Imported io-lib, a Staden library)

2008-07-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, James Bonfield wrote: At the risk of exploding a holy flame war, this is something RedHat did years ago with rpm and it proved to be very useful at times. It's certainly a feature I've missed with apt. Ahh, OK. I'm not aware that this feature was ever wanted. Is there

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread Tim Cutts
On 9 Jul 2008, at 8:25 am, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 07:08:12AM +0100, Tim Cutts a écrit : 1) Frequently, different groups in the Institute want different versions of the same program to be available, which is hard if we use packaged versions. Hi all, this is a very

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread James Bonfield
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:06:15PM +0100, Tim Cutts wrote: Even that doesn't work perfectly - as soon as you do dpkg --root you lose dependencies on the system libraries, which could be very important (for example staden will probably have quite a tight dependency on the precise version

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, James Bonfield wrote: figure out quite what causes the newer versions to crash and to either fix my bug or to submit a bug fix to tcl/tk if it resides there. Hmmm, I try to look very naively on the problem now: Io_lib is a library of file reading and writing code to

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-09 Thread James Bonfield
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:12:31PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Hmmm, I try to look very naively on the problem now: Io_lib is a library of file reading and writing code to provide a general purpose trace file (and Experiment File) reading interface. So naively spoken this is a library

Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 10:58:52AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Author: plessy Date: 2008-07-08 10:58:51 + (Tue, 08 Jul 2008) New Revision: 2199 Added: trunk/packages/io-lib/trunk/debian/ trunk/packages/io-lib/trunk/debian/README.Debian

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 02:13:05PM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : Thanks. I also had some trouble when I gave staden a try some time ago and that I want to add the remark that we should definitely try to settle down with one copy of io-lib inside Debian (either the separate or the one whic

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-08 Thread James Bonfield
Hello Andreas, I appreciate the problems with io_lib and the Staden Package, I really do! It causes me no end of hassle too. Unfortunately like a lot of things it's the usual fire-fighting scenario and never any time to tidy up. Thanks. I also had some trouble when I gave staden a try some

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, James Bonfield wrote: I appreciate the problems with io_lib and the Staden Package, I really do! It causes me no end of hassle too. Unfortunately like a lot of things it's the usual fire-fighting scenario and never any time to tidy up. ... the usual thing we all suffer

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-08 Thread James Bonfield
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 04:32:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Ideally I'd like to rewrite the entire staden build system to use something like autoconf (although maybe one of the newer alternatives that isn't such a dogs breakfast when it comes to dynamic libraries). Sounds good. I did

Re: Imported io-lib, a Staden library

2008-07-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, James Bonfield wrote: Maybe I should just give up and embrace the libtool abomination like the rest of the planet! It probably now works properly on the few remaining systems that anyone still supports. When I said autoconf when talking about libraries I certainly also