On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:01:45PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
[snip]
> Joey informed me that he is no longer a DAM, so James is the only one we
> have right now. (the NM web pages need to be updated.)
[snip]
> if the job is too much for one person, or if James is too busy with
> other stuff then w
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:56:47PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> 1) James did post on -private about this
> 2) The DAM is the one who DECIDES whether you are accepted as a
> developer or not. He is not just someone who creates accounts. As a
> delegate of the project leader (e.g. Wich
Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> (Joey, this is CC'ed to you because of the DAM bit, please take it to
> heart).
>
> > As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM,
> > I'm
> > just waiting DAM approval.
>
> You too? Whacky. Seems to be the tale of virtually every person in t
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:01:45PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
[snip]
> Joey informed me that he is no longer a DAM, so James is the only one we
> have right now. (the NM web pages need to be updated.)
[snip]
> if the job is too much for one person, or if James is too busy with
> other stuff then
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:56:47PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> 1) James did post on -private about this
> 2) The DAM is the one who DECIDES whether you are accepted as a
> developer or not. He is not just someone who creates accounts. As a
> delegate of the project leader (e.g. Wic
Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> (Joey, this is CC'ed to you because of the DAM bit, please take it to
> heart).
>
> > As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm
> > just waiting DAM approval.
>
> You too? Whacky. Seems to be the tale of virtually every person in the N
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> They _are_ allowed to speak, of course. They are not allowed to flame.
I don't read NMs that flamed. I only read debian developers who flamed (stop
that shit and the like). The NMs only asked questions, mostly polite.
--
Until the next mail...,
Stefa
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:30:59PM +0100, Eric VB wrote:
> As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm
> just waiting DAM approval.
>
> At the moment, I live 2000 km from home, I don't have a Debian system at hand,
> and at work, I'm only allowed to use Suse, othe
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> They _are_ allowed to speak, of course. They are not allowed to flame.
I don't read NMs that flamed. I only read debian developers who flamed (stop
that shit and the like). The NMs only asked questions, mostly polite.
--
Until the next mail...,
Stef
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:30:59PM +0100, Eric VB wrote:
> As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm
> just waiting DAM approval.
>
> At the moment, I live 2000 km from home, I don't have a Debian system at hand,
> and at work, I'm only allowed to use Suse, oth
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:06:48PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote:
> yes, but you can't expect all the maintainers hava a park of machines of all
> architectures. And yet, the Debian OS runs different kernels and on
> different architectures. The conclusion is obvious.
I am pretty sure that if you a
* Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20010115 16:01]:
> Is it good to post ITA when one doesn't know if he'll maintain these
> packages on eday ?
Sure, go ahead. A sponsor can upload your packages until you're
approved by the DAM.
> Do I have write access to
Hi Daniel!
You wrote:
> I think Craig (Sanders) summed it up beautifully in his email where he said
> that the DAM was a servant-type job, not a master. How would you like it if
> a submarine captain just vanished on holiday without telling anyone because
> he couldn't be stuffed going on his nex
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 01:06:48PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote:
> yes, but you can't expect all the maintainers hava a park of machines of all
> architectures. And yet, the Debian OS runs different kernels and on
> different architectures. The conclusion is obvious.
I am pretty sure that if you
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 10:16:14PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> You have adopted crafty -- are you also going to adopt
> craftywatcher? IF so, please retitle the bug 71916 to
> ITA: craftywatcher -- Crafty Log Viewer
I'd like to adopt craftywatcher too, of course, but as you mig
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 09:31:21PM -0500, Chris Ruffin wrote:
> Well, I posted a similar message to debian-devel and receieved a good
> analysis from Anthony Towns, release whiz and master of the cryptic
> output file. The actual culprit appears to be xlibs and libxaw6 (third
> level deps), which
(Joey, this is CC'ed to you because of the DAM bit, please take it to
heart).
> As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm
> just waiting DAM approval.
You too? Whacky. Seems to be the tale of virtually every person in the NM
queue I know. Passed P&P. Passed T&S
Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> (*) preferably we should have a group of half-a-dozen or so Accounts
> Managers. like the ftp archives, this is too important to leave in just
> one or two hands.
A volunteer pool system would be effective in distributing regulatory
power, thus avoiding personal bias. Ser
* Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20010115 16:01]:
> Is it good to post ITA when one doesn't know if he'll maintain these
> packages on eday ?
Sure, go ahead. A sponsor can upload your packages until you're
approved by the DAM.
> Do I have write access to
Hi Daniel!
You wrote:
> I think Craig (Sanders) summed it up beautifully in his email where he said
> that the DAM was a servant-type job, not a master. How would you like it if
> a submarine captain just vanished on holiday without telling anyone because
> he couldn't be stuffed going on his ne
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Brian Russo wrote:
> When adopting packages, for which there is essentially no reason to upload..
> i.e.. no new version, no bugs, no planned changes, is there anything one
> should do apart from emailing override, before closing the bug in wnpp?
Do an upload to change the ma
When adopting packages, for which there is essentially no reason to upload..
i.e.. no new version, no bugs, no planned changes, is there anything one
should do apart from emailing override, before closing the bug in wnpp?
--
Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG ID: 54D81666
Debian/GNU OS: www.deb
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 10:16:14PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> You have adopted crafty -- are you also going to adopt
> craftywatcher? IF so, please retitle the bug 71916 to
> ITA: craftywatcher -- Crafty Log Viewer
I'd like to adopt craftywatcher too, of course, but as you mi
As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm
just waiting DAM approval.
At the moment, I live 2000 km from home, I don't have a Debian system at hand,
and at work, I'm only allowed to use Suse, other distribution is prohibited.
I'm /home-less and I'm not rich enou
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 09:31:21PM -0500, Chris Ruffin wrote:
> Well, I posted a similar message to debian-devel and receieved a good
> analysis from Anthony Towns, release whiz and master of the cryptic
> output file. The actual culprit appears to be xlibs and libxaw6 (third
> level deps), whic
(Joey, this is CC'ed to you because of the DAM bit, please take it to
heart).
> As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm
> just waiting DAM approval.
You too? Whacky. Seems to be the tale of virtually every person in the NM
queue I know. Passed P&P. Passed T&
Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> (*) preferably we should have a group of half-a-dozen or so Accounts
> Managers. like the ftp archives, this is too important to leave in just
> one or two hands.
A volunteer pool system would be effective in distributing regulatory
power, thus avoiding personal bias. Se
** On Jan 15, Hamish Moffatt scribbled:
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:49:00PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote:
> > have brains and skills that can be used. And besides, a SOFTWARE PROJECT is
> > about giving its pariticpants access to software/hardware they can work on,
> > isn't it? Especially a multi
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:49:00PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote:
> have brains and skills that can be used. And besides, a SOFTWARE PROJECT is
> about giving its pariticpants access to software/hardware they can work on,
> isn't it? Especially a multi-arch/multi-OS distribution like Debian.
No, De
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 09:52:51AM +0100, Fredrik Steen wrote:
> I have sent 3 mails to Mr Akumira with no response. Anyone know where he is?
Yep, Anand has been busy organising the .au linux conference
linux.conf.au. (See http://linux.conf.au for details). Starts
in a couple of days.
Hopefully h
Chris Danis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What exactly is a Debian-native package? I've seen definitions from "a
>package with no upstream source" to "written especially for Debian,"
>which seem kind of orthogonal to me. Here's my situation:
>
>I'm in the NM queue, currently packaging tclbabel, a pie
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Brian Russo wrote:
> When adopting packages, for which there is essentially no reason to upload..
> i.e.. no new version, no bugs, no planned changes, is there anything one
> should do apart from emailing override, before closing the bug in wnpp?
Do an upload to change the m
When adopting packages, for which there is essentially no reason to upload..
i.e.. no new version, no bugs, no planned changes, is there anything one
should do apart from emailing override, before closing the bug in wnpp?
--
Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG ID: 54D81666
Debian/GNU OS: www.de
As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm
just waiting DAM approval.
At the moment, I live 2000 km from home, I don't have a Debian system at hand,
and at work, I'm only allowed to use Suse, other distribution is prohibited.
I'm /home-less and I'm not rich eno
** On Jan 15, Hamish Moffatt scribbled:
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:49:00PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote:
> > have brains and skills that can be used. And besides, a SOFTWARE PROJECT is
> > about giving its pariticpants access to software/hardware they can work on,
> > isn't it? Especially a mult
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:49:00PM +0100, Marek Habersack wrote:
> have brains and skills that can be used. And besides, a SOFTWARE PROJECT is
> about giving its pariticpants access to software/hardware they can work on,
> isn't it? Especially a multi-arch/multi-OS distribution like Debian.
No, D
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 09:52:51AM +0100, Fredrik Steen wrote:
> I have sent 3 mails to Mr Akumira with no response. Anyone know where he is?
Yep, Anand has been busy organising the .au linux conference
linux.conf.au. (See http://linux.conf.au for details). Starts
in a couple of days.
Hopefully
Chris Danis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What exactly is a Debian-native package? I've seen definitions from "a
>package with no upstream source" to "written especially for Debian,"
>which seem kind of orthogonal to me. Here's my situation:
>
>I'm in the NM queue, currently packaging tclbabel, a pi
On Saturday 13 January 2001, at 11 h 10, the keyboard of Martin Schulze
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . uploading packages (through a sponsor)
After months of sponsorship-bashing ('it will break Debian', 'it will
short-circuit the normal NM process'), then after months of ignorance, now it
is
Anthony Towns writes:
> The one thing that's *least* useful, though, is trying to tell
> volunteers that, dammit, they're just not doing a good enough job,
> and they'll have to work harder if they want any respect at all.
Hey, don't forget that all the people in the new maintainer process are a
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:01:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| > You must have heard many times by now that Debian is a volunteer effort, and
| > things are done on a time-available basis.
|
| Of course we all know this. But the question is really one of bottlenecking,
| not of not enough av
Hi Marcus,
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 05:32:40PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> Nothing of this is hard to understand. But if this happens, you have to pass
> on the general staff. If you don't care about new maintainers, because you
> don't think there is much value in them, leave them alone. But
On Saturday 13 January 2001, at 11 h 10, the keyboard of Martin Schulze
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . uploading packages (through a sponsor)
After months of sponsorship-bashing ('it will break Debian', 'it will short-circuit
the normal NM process'), then after months of ignorance, now it is
> I mean, is it really difficult to see how approving someone who'll
> maintain a couple of packages that'll get dropped into optional or extra
> isn't really a high priority? Is it difficult to see how someone might
The problem with this logic is that you don't have much chance of being
able to
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The one thing that's *least* useful, though, is trying to tell
> volunteers that, dammit, they're just not doing a good enough job,
> and they'll have to work harder if they want any respect at all.
Hey, don't forget that all the people in the new main
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:01:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| > You must have heard many times by now that Debian is a volunteer effort, and
| > things are done on a time-available basis.
|
| Of course we all know this. But the question is really one of bottlenecking,
| not of not enough a
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 10:22:00PM -0500, Chris Danis wrote:
> I'm in the NM queue, currently packaging tclbabel, a piece of software I have
> written myself. Because I am both upstream and possibly Debian maintainer,
> should this be such a native package?
It really depends. If you make it a de
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