Re: files in .deb

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > * Add your file to the package somewhere > > * Modify debian/rules (or possibly one of the debhelper config files > if it's using debhelper) to install your file at a particular > location [...] Is using the install(1) command recommended, o

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Frank Gevaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > AFAIK, non-free only needs permission to redistribute. > > Yes. For examples of disqualified-from-non-free software look at the > various installers. Newer Sun JDKs also haven't made it into > non-fre

Re: New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Richter
Agney, > I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. A maintainer is someone who maintains a package, while a developer has an account on the Debian machines and permission to upload. These two are basically distinct (i.e. you can maintain a package without being a developer an

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? > I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make > unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz. Why would dh_make go out of its way to violate best practices li

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: > As an aside I wonder how well SE-Linux, or the other improved > security patches handle installation issues? I know that by installing > a random package you're effectively giving the package maintainer > root upon your box. > > I'd imagine that a package installation p

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:42:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > You should really ask Russell Coker on -devel. There may well be a > policy to limit postinst scripts to the things that postinst scripts > typically do. Thanks I shall. I was thinking was that a postinst script, or package inst

Re: How to build a package from cvs.

2003-03-01 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> I am (have already) building a new package from the cvs tree, but my question > is: > > Shall I run the autobuild (called bootstrap) on my system and go with the > package using those results or I shall modify my debian/rules to create the > Makefile.in and friends during compilation time? > >

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:19:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > if a program license restricts usage to e.g. non-commercial use only, > will this (usually) disqualify a package from inclusion into non-free? > In the Debian Policy 2.1.6 there is a "warning" about usage > restrictions but no defini

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:46:58PM -0500, Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: > Checking the license on some software the I would like to add. > Does this copyright meet the debian requirements. I'm thinking this package > would end up in "non-free" if it does qualify. > /*** Copyright Notice *

Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:25:16PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:41:18AM +0100, Xavier Roche wrote: > > > In this case, should the package just document what the use > > > should do (it will be different for each MTA) or at least > > > detect which MTA is installed and

Re: New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 01 Mar 2003, Agney Lopes Roth Ferraz wrote: > I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. http://nm.debian.org > I read in debian page that the only way to became maintainer is developing > some nice program, but I have two friends that are only who make the .deb > pack

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:19:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > > > if a program license restricts usage to e.g. non-commercial use only, > > will this (usually) disqualify a package from inclusion into non-free? > > In the Debian Policy 2.1.6 there i

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20030301T132435+0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > Is there a list of removed packages available anywhere, together with > reasons for the removal? http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt lists removals starting some two years ago. > F-Prot for GNU/Linux _has_ been distributed by others, e.g. by >

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:22:20PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > Well I fully agree with you, but let me explain: Completely by chance > I took over maintainership of the f-prot-installer package, which is > in contrib. Since an installer package may easily fail (when the > vendor changes file nam

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > Personally, BTW, I would really, really prefer to maintain Free > > Software, not *only* for political reasons but also because a > > commercial vendor is obviously the least responsive upstream you can > > have. And also, not having access t

Feedback about my two packages

2003-03-01 Thread Derek J Witt
Good evening, all. I just wanted some feedback on how I could improve my two packages mentioned below. -- Derek Witt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] witty-cdplayer: I have written a CD Player that uses cdda2wav as a backend. This was written to allow skipping CD/DVD-ROM/RW driv

Re: files in .deb

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > * Add your file to the package somewhere > > * Modify debian/rules (or possibly one of the debhelper config files > if it's using debhelper) to install your file at a particular > location [...] Is using the install(1) command recommended, o

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Robert Bihlmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Frank Gevaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > AFAIK, non-free only needs permission to redistribute. > > Yes. For examples of disqualified-from-non-free software look at the > various installers. Newer Sun JDKs also haven't made it into > non-fre

Re: New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Richter
Agney, > I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. A maintainer is someone who maintains a package, while a developer has an account on the Debian machines and permission to upload. These two are basically distinct (i.e. you can maintain a package without being a developer an

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? > I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make > unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz. Why would dh_make go out of its way to violate best practices li

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: > As an aside I wonder how well SE-Linux, or the other improved > security patches handle installation issues? I know that by installing > a random package you're effectively giving the package maintainer > root upon your box. > > I'd imagine that a package installation p

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:42:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > You should really ask Russell Coker on -devel. There may well be a > policy to limit postinst scripts to the things that postinst scripts > typically do. Thanks I shall. I was thinking was that a postinst script, or package inst

Re: How to build a package from cvs.

2003-03-01 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> I am (have already) building a new package from the cvs tree, but my question > is: > > Shall I run the autobuild (called bootstrap) on my system and go with the > package using those results or I shall modify my debian/rules to create the > Makefile.in and friends during compilation time? > >

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:19:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > if a program license restricts usage to e.g. non-commercial use only, > will this (usually) disqualify a package from inclusion into non-free? > In the Debian Policy 2.1.6 there is a "warning" about usage > restrictions but no defini

Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 10:25:16PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:41:18AM +0100, Xavier Roche wrote: > > > In this case, should the package just document what the use > > > should do (it will be different for each MTA) or at least > > > detect which MTA is installed and

Re: A new package which I would like to add to Debian

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:46:58PM -0500, Kevin J. Kalupson wrote: > Checking the license on some software the I would like to add. > Does this copyright meet the debian requirements. I'm thinking this package > would end up in "non-free" if it does qualify. > /*** Copyright Notice *

Re: New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 01 Mar 2003, Agney Lopes Roth Ferraz wrote: > I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. http://nm.debian.org > I read in debian page that the only way to became maintainer is developing > some nice program, but I have two friends that are only who make the .deb > pack

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:19:48PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > > > if a program license restricts usage to e.g. non-commercial use only, > > will this (usually) disqualify a package from inclusion into non-free? > > In the Debian Policy 2.1.6 there i

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20030301T132435+0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > Is there a list of removed packages available anywhere, together with > reasons for the removal? http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt lists removals starting some two years ago. > F-Prot for GNU/Linux _has_ been distributed by others, e.g. by >

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:22:20PM +0100, Johannes Rohr wrote: > Well I fully agree with you, but let me explain: Completely by chance > I took over maintainership of the f-prot-installer package, which is > in contrib. Since an installer package may easily fail (when the > vendor changes file nam

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-01 Thread Johannes Rohr
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > Personally, BTW, I would really, really prefer to maintain Free > > Software, not *only* for political reasons but also because a > > commercial vendor is obviously the least responsive upstream you can > > have. And also, not having access t

Feedback about my two packages

2003-03-01 Thread Derek J Witt
Good evening, all. I just wanted some feedback on how I could improve my two packages mentioned below. -- Derek Witt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] witty-cdplayer: I have written a CD Player that uses cdda2wav as a backend. This was written to allow skipping CD/DVD-ROM/RW driv

New Maintainer ou New Developer

2003-03-01 Thread Agney Lopes Roth Ferraz
Hi mentors, I'm looking for information about debian developer/maintainer. I read in debian page that the only way to became maintainer is developing some nice program, but I have two friends that are only who make the .deb package. The situation is: I don't have a nice package develped by me, b