Re: RFS: anteater

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 12:14:25AM +0100, Eike Sauer wrote: Am Montag, 3. November 2003 13:37 schrieb Andreas Metzler: I am really sorry for bringing this up one by one, but afaict the Build-Dependency on docbook-to-man is completely superfluous. Why? I found it neither in essential

Re: RFS: anteater

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:12:02PM +0100, Andrea Capriotti wrote: I am really sorry for bringing this up one by one, No problem. ;) but afaict the Build-Dependency on docbook-to-man is completely superfluous. You are right, removed. Version 0.4.4-4 is available. I'll try to find time

Re: RFS: anteater

2003-11-05 Thread Andrea Capriotti
I assume that a former revision of Andrea's package dynamiclly generated a manpage from sgml source and therefore needed the dependency, and he[1] simply forgot to remove the dependency when it was not necessary anymore. Right. I wrote a Debian man page for the package but now upstream author

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?

2003-11-05 Thread Frank Kster
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Hi, if a package wants to use debconf to manage a configuration file, but still let the user have the option to manually add entries - is there a preferred way how to do this? Have you

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?

2003-11-05 Thread Frank Kster
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: if a package wants to use debconf to manage a configuration file, but still let the user have the option to manually add entries - is there a preferred way how to do this? Parse the file

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:33:03PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: [...] (BTW, I'm more annoyed by being asked by dpkg that conffiles where changed by me or a script that I didn't even know they existed) [...] Afaik this usually happens if a conffile moves from one package to another. cu

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conf[ig ]files?

2003-11-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: if a package wants to use debconf to manage a configuration file, but still let the user have the option to manually add entries - is there a preferred way how to do this? The packages I have on my system (mostly woody, however)

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conf[ig ]files?

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:01:35AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: [...] Put the information from the debconf database into the file, but between markers ### begin DEBCONF section for $package... ### end DEBCONF section for

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conf[ig ]files?

2003-11-05 Thread Frank Kster
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The problem with that is, as pointed out in the bug report, is that now both the debconf database and language.dat are under /var, where backups are rarely done on homeusers systems, and he wants it under /etc. Er, if you're not backing up /var/lib,

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conf[ig ]files?

2003-11-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 06:36:14PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The problem with that is, as pointed out in the bug report, is that now both the debconf database and language.dat are under /var, where backups are rarely done on homeusers systems, and

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upstream README

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
If the upstream readme file has, in this case an out of date version number, should I just leave that as is (it has a comprehensive and updated changelog file)? tia zen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

html documentation - symbolic links

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
It seems the debuild chain converts symbolic (documentation) links to file copies. Should this be so? My reading of policy says it is up to the maintainer. If this is good practice (as I (naively?) assume) how do I get around this? In my case: the package has:

ucf and /dev/tty (was Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?)

2003-11-05 Thread Blars Blarson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is just a minor gotcha, #194152, you'll have to redirect ucf's stdin to /dev/tty. Unfortunately, that isn't right either. hinfo has a really ugly hack in postinst to save a copy of stdin if it has a chance, and only use /dev/tty if

config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.guess) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess config.guess endif Three questions:

subscribing to a single bug

2003-11-05 Thread martin f krafft
I can subscribe to the BTS traffic of a whole package through the PTS. Is it also possible to just monitor a single bug and be emailed when something changes? Thanks, -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud

Re: config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Neil Spring
On Nov 5, 2003, at 4:53 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.guess) cp -f

Re: fastdep finally packaged

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:31, Zenaan Harkness wrote: http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~zenaan/zenaan/files/ Sorry it's taken a month, but there in the end... Updated to new upstream release (which includes manpage I submitted upstream), fastdep-0.16. Get it while it's hot... Zenaan (PS

Re: fastdep finally packaged

2003-11-05 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:48:28PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: $ lintian -i *changes W: fastdep source: newer-standards-version 3.6.0 Note, 3.6.1.0 is the most current. Take a look at /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz for what changed. For this kind of program probably

Re: config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003, Zenaan Harkness wrote: debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.guess) cp -f

Looking for a mentor

2003-11-05 Thread Jess Mahan
Hi, I would like to become a Debian maintainer, but I understand that I need a mentor first. Right now, there are only two packages that I would like to maintain: - wmnetload - msmtp I have packaged these, and they are available via: deb http://digitalssg.net/debian ./ deb-src

Re: config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:14, Neil Spring wrote: On Nov 5, 2003, at 4:53 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq $(wildcard

Re: config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:58, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2003, Zenaan Harkness wrote: debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq

Re: upstream README

2003-11-05 Thread Amit Shah
On Thursday 06 Nov 2003 05:12, Zenaan Harkness wrote: If the upstream readme file has, in this case an out of date version number, should I just leave that as is (it has a comprehensive and updated changelog file)? I'm not a DD, but I believe maintaining a package for Debian also means that

Re: RFS: anteater

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 12:14:25AM +0100, Eike Sauer wrote: Am Montag, 3. November 2003 13:37 schrieb Andreas Metzler: I am really sorry for bringing this up one by one, but afaict the Build-Dependency on docbook-to-man is completely superfluous. Why? I found it neither in essential

Re: RFS: anteater

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:12:02PM +0100, Andrea Capriotti wrote: I am really sorry for bringing this up one by one, No problem. ;) but afaict the Build-Dependency on docbook-to-man is completely superfluous. You are right, removed. Version 0.4.4-4 is available. I'll try to find time

Re: RFS: anteater

2003-11-05 Thread Andrea Capriotti
I assume that a former revision of Andrea's package dynamiclly generated a manpage from sgml source and therefore needed the dependency, and he[1] simply forgot to remove the dependency when it was not necessary anymore. Right. I wrote a Debian man page for the package but now upstream author

preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?

2003-11-05 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, if a package wants to use debconf to manage a configuration file, but still let the user have the option to manually add entries - is there a preferred way how to do this? The packages I have on my system (mostly woody, however) don't care at all about this and simply say don't edit this

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: if a package wants to use debconf to manage a configuration file, but still let the user have the option to manually add entries - is there a preferred way how to do this? Parse the file and only change the debconf-managed options,

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?

2003-11-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Hi, if a package wants to use debconf to manage a configuration file, but still let the user have the option to manually add entries - is there a preferred way how to do this? Have you read debconf-devel(7), namely the section on

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?

2003-11-05 Thread Frank Küster
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Hi, if a package wants to use debconf to manage a configuration file, but still let the user have the option to manually add entries - is there a preferred way how to do this? Have you

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?

2003-11-05 Thread Frank Küster
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: if a package wants to use debconf to manage a configuration file, but still let the user have the option to manually add entries - is there a preferred way how to do this? Parse the file

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:33:03PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: [...] (BTW, I'm more annoyed by being asked by dpkg that conffiles where changed by me or a script that I didn't even know they existed) [...] Afaik this usually happens if a conffile moves from one package to another. cu

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conf[ig ]files?

2003-11-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: if a package wants to use debconf to manage a configuration file, but still let the user have the option to manually add entries - is there a preferred way how to do this? The packages I have on my system (mostly woody, however)

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conf[ig ]files?

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:01:35AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:03:24PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: [...] Put the information from the debconf database into the file, but between markers ### begin DEBCONF section for $package... ### end DEBCONF section for

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conf[ig ]files?

2003-11-05 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The problem with that is, as pointed out in the bug report, is that now both the debconf database and language.dat are under /var, where backups are rarely done on homeusers systems, and he wants it under /etc. Er, if you're not backing up /var/lib,

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conf[ig ]files?

2003-11-05 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 06:36:14PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: [...] I would say that, even though this is a cop-out, it's a better solution than what's in place for tetex today. Hm, so this is in contrast to what Colin and Andreas said, as far as we

Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conf[ig ]files?

2003-11-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 06:36:14PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The problem with that is, as pointed out in the bug report, is that now both the debconf database and language.dat are under /var, where backups are rarely done on homeusers systems, and

html documentation - symbolic links

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
It seems the debuild chain converts symbolic (documentation) links to file copies. Should this be so? My reading of policy says it is up to the maintainer. If this is good practice (as I (naively?) assume) how do I get around this? In my case: the package has:

ucf and /dev/tty (was Re: preferred method for coexistence of debconf- and manual parts in conffiles?)

2003-11-05 Thread Blars Blarson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is just a minor gotcha, #194152, you'll have to redirect ucf's stdin to /dev/tty. Unfortunately, that isn't right either. hinfo has a really ugly hack in postinst to save a copy of stdin if it has a chance, and only use /dev/tty if

config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.guess) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess config.guess endif Three questions:

subscribing to a single bug

2003-11-05 Thread martin f krafft
I can subscribe to the BTS traffic of a whole package through the PTS. Is it also possible to just monitor a single bug and be emailed when something changes? Thanks, -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud

Re: config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Neil Spring
On Nov 5, 2003, at 4:53 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.guess) cp -f

fastdep finally packaged

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~zenaan/zenaan/files/ Sorry it's taken a month, but there in the end... Updated to new upstream release (which includes manpage I submitted upstream), fastdep-0.16. Get it while it's hot... Zenaan (PS RFS while we're here...)

Re: fastdep finally packaged

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:31, Zenaan Harkness wrote: http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~zenaan/zenaan/files/ Sorry it's taken a month, but there in the end... Updated to new upstream release (which includes manpage I submitted upstream), fastdep-0.16. Get it while it's hot... Zenaan (PS

Re: fastdep finally packaged

2003-11-05 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 12:48:28PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: $ lintian -i *changes W: fastdep source: newer-standards-version 3.6.0 Note, 3.6.1.0 is the most current. Take a look at /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt.gz for what changed. For this kind of program probably

Re: config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003, Zenaan Harkness wrote: debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.guess) cp -f

Looking for a mentor

2003-11-05 Thread Jess Mahan
Hi, I would like to become a Debian maintainer, but I understand that I need a mentor first. Right now, there are only two packages that I would like to maintain: - wmnetload - msmtp I have packaged these, and they are available via: deb http://digitalssg.net/debian ./ deb-src

Re: config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:14, Neil Spring wrote: On Nov 5, 2003, at 4:53 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq $(wildcard

Re: config.sub and config.guess | .diff.gz bloat

2003-11-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 13:58, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2003, Zenaan Harkness wrote: debhelper puts the following into the clean rule in debian/rules: ifneq $(wildcard /usr/share/misc/config.sub) cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub endif ifneq