Re: Standards-Version

2003-12-15 Thread Florian Zaehringer
Hi! On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:33:30 + MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2003-12-12 19:10:31 + Florian Zaehringer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Are you taking that over too? > > I would like to! But I couldn't get in touch with the contakt at > > emelfm.sf.net :( > > I would sug

Re: Standards-Version

2003-12-15 Thread Florian Zaehringer
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:57 +0100 Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 08:10:47PM +0100, Florian Zaehringer wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:35:16 +0100 > > Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 11:00:45PM +0100, Florian Zaehri

UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
Is it valid to use UTF-8 in the debian/copyright file? (Specifically, it is possibly to accurately reproduce a copyright symbol, using UTF-8, which would be a nice thing to have...) -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,''`. Debian GNU/KLNetBSD(i386) porter

How to deal with sql-database structures on upgrade

2003-12-15 Thread Thorsten Sauter
Hi all, I'm going to adopt cacti[1]. But I have a problems with a clean upgrade path to the new upstream version. Cacti use a mysql database to store the configuration values (including users/password, graphic options, layouts, ...). The new upstream version (0.8.x) use a completly new designed

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 18:44, Joel Baker wrote: > Is it valid to use UTF-8 in the debian/copyright file? (Specifically, it > is possibly to accurately reproduce a copyright symbol, using UTF-8, which > would be a nice thing to have...) > There exists no policy for this; therefore common sense take

Re: How to deal with sql-database structures on upgrade

2003-12-15 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Thorsten Sauter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some other packages like sysstat simply prints a message about a > incompatible dataformat, and move or delete the old datafile. Is this an > acceptable way for such a program also? And if so, should I do a > database export first, before deleting and

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
(I'm not a Debian developer) On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:29:59PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > It's probably a good additional point that most of the standard > character sets have no ?? symbol and that there is no legal basis for > "(C)" being a valid representation of it. IANAL (but recent

Re: How to deal with sql-database structures on upgrade

2003-12-15 Thread Leo \"Costela\" Antunes
On Seg, 2003-12-15 at 20:05, Thorsten Sauter wrote: > Hi all, Hi > I have tried to write some postinst scripts to migrate the existing > database into the new one, but I think now this is impossible, because > maybe informations which are needed in the new version are missing in > the old one. >

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:58:44AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > (I'm not a Debian developer) > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:29:59PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > It's probably a good additional point that most of the standard > > character sets have no ?? symbol and that there is

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:29:59PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 18:44, Joel Baker wrote: > > > Is it valid to use UTF-8 in the debian/copyright file? (Specifically, it > > is possibly to accurately reproduce a copyright symbol, using UTF-8, which > > would be a nice th

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread David Weinehall
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:01:37PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: [snip] > > It's probably a good additional point that most of the standard > > character sets have no © symbol and that there is no legal basis for > > "(C)" being a valid representation of it. I always write Copyright (C) 20xx David W

Re: How to deal with sql-database structures on upgrade

2003-12-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:05:12PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: > > I'm going to adopt cacti[1]. But I have a problems with a clean upgrade > path to the new upstream version. > > Cacti use a mysql database to store the configuration values (including > users/password, graphic options, layouts,

Re: Standards-Version

2003-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:19:38PM +0100, Florian Zaehringer wrote: > :D I know that, but since the debian-hack I couldn't find a server with > any packages... But perhaps I misspelled somthing because apt-get finds > packages... Packages @ http://debian.org was / is(?) unavailable. packages.debia

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:58:44AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:29:59PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > On the other hand, policy states UTF-8 for Changelog which breaks katie > > if your name contains accented characters because you're still forbidden > >

Re: How to package a database (not program)?

2003-12-15 Thread David Braun
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 23:30, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > What if I want to import the data into a MySQL database? Is it trivial to > do that from an SQLite data file? If not, I think it would be a good idea > to provide the master format as well (SQL? tab-delimited?). Yes, it looks like it is trivia

Re: Standards-Version

2003-12-15 Thread Florian Zaehringer
Hi! On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:33:30 + MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2003-12-12 19:10:31 + Florian Zaehringer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Are you taking that over too? > > I would like to! But I couldn't get in touch with the contakt at > > emelfm.sf.net :( > > I would sug

Re: Standards-Version

2003-12-15 Thread Florian Zaehringer
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:01:57 +0100 Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 08:10:47PM +0100, Florian Zaehringer wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:35:16 +0100 > > Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 11:00:45PM +0100, Florian Zaehri

UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
Is it valid to use UTF-8 in the debian/copyright file? (Specifically, it is possibly to accurately reproduce a copyright symbol, using UTF-8, which would be a nice thing to have...) -- Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,''`. Debian GNU/KLNetBSD(i386) porter

How to deal with sql-database structures on upgrade

2003-12-15 Thread Thorsten Sauter
Hi all, I'm going to adopt cacti[1]. But I have a problems with a clean upgrade path to the new upstream version. Cacti use a mysql database to store the configuration values (including users/password, graphic options, layouts, ...). The new upstream version (0.8.x) use a completly new designed

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 18:44, Joel Baker wrote: > Is it valid to use UTF-8 in the debian/copyright file? (Specifically, it > is possibly to accurately reproduce a copyright symbol, using UTF-8, which > would be a nice thing to have...) > There exists no policy for this; therefore common sense take

Re: How to deal with sql-database structures on upgrade

2003-12-15 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Thorsten Sauter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some other packages like sysstat simply prints a message about a > incompatible dataformat, and move or delete the old datafile. Is this an > acceptable way for such a program also? And if so, should I do a > database export first, before deleting and

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
(I'm not a Debian developer) On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:29:59PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > It's probably a good additional point that most of the standard > character sets have no ?? symbol and that there is no legal basis for > "(C)" being a valid representation of it. IANAL (but recent

Re: How to deal with sql-database structures on upgrade

2003-12-15 Thread Leo \"Costela\" Antunes
On Seg, 2003-12-15 at 20:05, Thorsten Sauter wrote: > Hi all, Hi > I have tried to write some postinst scripts to migrate the existing > database into the new one, but I think now this is impossible, because > maybe informations which are needed in the new version are missing in > the old one. >

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:58:44AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > (I'm not a Debian developer) > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:29:59PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > It's probably a good additional point that most of the standard > > character sets have no ?? symbol and that there is

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Joel Baker
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:29:59PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 18:44, Joel Baker wrote: > > > Is it valid to use UTF-8 in the debian/copyright file? (Specifically, it > > is possibly to accurately reproduce a copyright symbol, using UTF-8, which > > would be a nice th

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread David Weinehall
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:01:37PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: [snip] > > It's probably a good additional point that most of the standard > > character sets have no © symbol and that there is no legal basis for > > "(C)" being a valid representation of it. I always write Copyright (C) 20xx David W

Re: How to deal with sql-database structures on upgrade

2003-12-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:05:12PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: > > I'm going to adopt cacti[1]. But I have a problems with a clean upgrade > path to the new upstream version. > > Cacti use a mysql database to store the configuration values (including > users/password, graphic options, layouts,

Re: UTF-8 in copyright files?

2003-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:58:44AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:29:59PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > > On the other hand, policy states UTF-8 for Changelog which breaks katie > > if your name contains accented characters because you're still forbidden > >

Re: Standards-Version

2003-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 07:19:38PM +0100, Florian Zaehringer wrote: > :D I know that, but since the debian-hack I couldn't find a server with > any packages... But perhaps I misspelled somthing because apt-get finds > packages... Packages @ http://debian.org was / is(?) unavailable. packages.debia