Re: New developer.

2009-11-26 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! * Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net [091125 19:06]: Why the harsh answer? Sorry, the answer was not intended as such (but can indeed be seen as such). Sorry again :( Best Regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Improve the Val(a)ide package

2009-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Nicolas Joseph gege2...@redaction-developpez.com wrote: These should be installed to /usr/share instead. You might need to patch the source to install them in the right place. See here for why: http://lintian.debian.org/tags/image-file-in-usr-lib.html If

Re: New developer.

2009-11-26 Thread George Danchev
Quoting Patrick Matthäi pmatth...@debian.org: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nuno Paquete schrieb: Hi everyone, I want to be a part of Debian developers team and I'm interested in some orphaned projects. I'm reading a lot about Debian developing and how to be a Debian

Re: New developer.

2009-11-26 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-11-26, George Danchev danc...@spnet.net wrote: * start with learning how Debian Bug Tracking System is manipulated (which is one of the most valuable Debian assets) * look for neglected bug reports, eventually in packages you are using * try to submit patches and/or helpful comments

Re: RFS: mppenc (NMU, fixes ftbfs)

2009-11-26 Thread Jorge Salamero Sanz
On Thursday 26 November 2009 07:29:17 Charles Plessy wrote: If a NMU is unavoidable (as opposed to an adoption) maybe it would make sense to orphan it at the same time, unless Jorge is still interested in maintaining it. mppenc has been deprecated by upstream in favour of musepack-tools

Re: Improve the Val(a)ide package

2009-11-26 Thread Nicolas Joseph
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:35:27 +0800, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Nicolas Joseph gege2...@redaction-developpez.com wrote: These should be installed to /usr/share instead. You might need to patch the source to install them in the right place. See here for

Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
Esteemed Debian mentors, Is it considered acceptable for a package to blindly delete, then recreate its entire directory under /usr/share/doc upon installation or upgrade ? Although I probably will do a conditional backup of such a hypothtical folder in {pre,post}inst anyhow (polite feels like

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Qui, 26 Nov 2009, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: Esteemed Debian mentors, Is it considered acceptable for a package to blindly delete, then recreate its entire directory under /usr/share/doc upon installation or upgrade ? Although I probably will do a conditional backup of such a hypothtical folder

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Qui, 26 Nov 2009, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: Is it considered acceptable for a package to blindly delete, then recreate its entire directory under /usr/share/doc upon installation or upgrade ? Why exactly do you want to do that? What do you want to achieve? I'm

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 26 nov. 09 à 13:38, Lucas B. Cohen a écrit : Esteemed Debian mentors, Is it considered acceptable for a package to blindly delete, then recreate its entire directory under /usr/share/doc upon installation or upgrade ? [...] In worse-case scenarios, these could be illogically interpreted

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le 26 nov. 09 à 13:38, Lucas B. Cohen a écrit : Esteemed Debian mentors, Is it considered acceptable for a package to blindly delete, then recreate its entire directory under /usr/share/doc upon installation or upgrade ? [...] In worse-case scenarios, these could

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! * Lucas B. Cohen mli...@free.fr [091126 14:40]: Why exactly do you want to do that? What do you want to achieve? I'm triaging bugs opened against the Bacula package, and a patch has been submitted to a .preinst file that can swipe /usr/share/doc/bacula during upgrades. Could you

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 26 nov. 09 à 14:40, Lucas B. Cohen a écrit : Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Qui, 26 Nov 2009, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: Is it considered acceptable for a package to blindly delete, then recreate its entire directory under /usr/share/doc upon installation or upgrade ? Why exactly do

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 03:00:18PM +0100, Lucas B. Cohen wrote: Of course I understand the standard files under doc/ (and even the whole directory) are under dpkg's control (obviously the, changelog copyright, etc.). But perhaps user's don't. Users don't have write access to anything under

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
Thibaut Paumard wrote: I suppose you mean: bacula: usr-share-doc-symlink-without-dependency http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554197 The idea is to delete the directory in order to replace it by a symlink. That's the one, thank you. In my opinion, it is OK to do that

Re: Can /usr/share/doc/pkg be deleted on upgrade ?

2009-11-26 Thread Lucas B. Cohen
Roger Leigh wrote: Users don't have write access to anything under /usr in general (and /usr/share/doc in particular). If they did place files there, they must have done it after gaining root privs. I.e. they took deliberate steps to do something they should not under normal circumstances

Re: New developer.

2009-11-26 Thread René Mayorga
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:05:59AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2009-11-26, George Danchev danc...@spnet.net wrote: * start with learning how Debian Bug Tracking System is manipulated (which is one of the most valuable Debian assets) * look for neglected bug reports, eventually in

RFS: java3d-fileloader

2009-11-26 Thread Gabriele Giacone
Dear mentors, Dear Java people, I'm packaging sweethome3d [1], a java application which depends on many libraries, all open source and released under DSFG-compatible licenses: (a) libitext-java (b) libvecmath-java (c) libjava3d-java (d) freehep-vectorgraphics-svg (e) sunflow (f) Java3D 3DS

RFS: glpeces

2009-11-26 Thread Innocent De Marchi
Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for my package glpeces. * Package name: glpeces Version : 4.0-1 Upstream Author : Innocent De Marchi tangram.pe...@gmail.com * URL : http://www.mallorcaweb.net/tangrampeces/

Re: RFS: java3d-fileloader

2009-11-26 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Le jeudi 26 novembre 2009 18:51:12, Gabriele Giacone a écrit : Dear mentors, Dear Java people, Hi Gabriele, Welcome a board! I'm packaging sweethome3d [1] Great! And now (f). It's a loader for file in 3D Studio format [4] by Microcrowd under LGPL * Package name: java3ds-fileloader

Buildd failed: C compiler cannot create executables

2009-11-26 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Hello, while building the new package 'Xfe' I can see that buildd failed on some architectures. See: https://buildd.debian.org/~luk/status/package.php?suite=p=xfe They failed all with the same error: checking for gcc... ccache cc checking for C compiler default output file name...

Re: Buildd failed: C compiler cannot create executables

2009-11-26 Thread Patrick Matthäi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joachim Wiedorn schrieb: Hello, while building the new package 'Xfe' I can see that buildd failed on some architectures. See: https://buildd.debian.org/~luk/status/package.php?suite=p=xfe They failed all with the same error: checking

Re: Buildd failed: C compiler cannot create executables

2009-11-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 20:34 +0100, Joachim Wiedorn wrote: Hello, while building the new package 'Xfe' I can see that buildd failed on some architectures. See: https://buildd.debian.org/~luk/status/package.php?suite=p=xfe They failed all with the same error: checking for gcc...

Re: RFS: mppenc (NMU, fixes ftbfs)

2009-11-26 Thread Cristian Greco
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:59:24 +0100 Jorge Salamero Sanz ben...@debian.org wrote: On Thursday 26 November 2009 07:29:17 Charles Plessy wrote: If a NMU is unavoidable (as opposed to an adoption) maybe it would make sense to orphan it at the same time, unless Jorge is still interested in

Re: Re: RFS: bluemindo (updated package)

2009-11-26 Thread Thibaut GIRKA
Sorry for my late reply, seems I've dropped the mail by error... Your package drops this symlink with out any mention of that in the changelog: lrwxrwxrwx root/root /usr/share/bluemindo/COPYING - ../common-licenses/GPL-3 Did you mean to do that? Let me check... Yeah, the program does

RFS: lrslib, package to enumerate solutions to linear inequalities

2009-11-26 Thread David Bremner
rom: David Bremner brem...@unb.ca To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org Subject: RFS: lrslib Dear All; I am looking for a sponsor for my package lrslib. * Package name: lrslib Version : 0.42c-1 Upstream Author : David Avis a...@cs.mcgill.ca * URL :

Re: RFS: lrslib, package to enumerate solutions to linear inequalities

2009-11-26 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
Hi David, On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 04:39:20PM -0400, David Bremner wrote: I am looking for a sponsor for my package lrslib. * Package name: lrslib Version : 0.42c-1 Upstream Author : David Avis a...@cs.mcgill.ca * URL : http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca * License

Re: RFS: gem (updated package) [3rd try]

2009-11-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, Barry deFreese wrote: IOhannes, Obviously the preferred method is to create an arch-indep doc package. But personally for such a small package I would sponsor even with that. (I can't speak for others though). sorry to be so nagging,

Embedding one .deb inside another

2009-11-26 Thread Joe Smith
Hi, I'm having an issue with distributing a .deb package that has a dependency on another .deb package that might not be in an available repository (or the target may not have a network connection at the time of installation). What I'd like to do, ideally, is embed the dependency inside the

GNOME default applications

2009-11-26 Thread Tony Houghton
I'm about to release a new version of roxterm and I've been asked to support GNOME default applications http://live.gnome.org/ControlCenter/AddingDefaultApplications. Would you recommend leaving it up to the upstream Makefile or deferring it to postinst? -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk -- To

Mentor inquiry / Package adoption

2009-11-26 Thread Danny Rodriguez
Hello - I am the original author of Apt-Spy (up until ver 2.x) until a friend (Steven Holmes) took it over and did a re-write. Stephen Stafford was an acquaintance of mine that was maintaining the package, but it seems he has since let it go. I have two requests : 1. I'd like

Re: RFS: gem (updated package) [3rd try]

2009-11-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 22:24 +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: i'm wondering what would be the best way to keep it maintained in debian. should i try and join the multimedia team? should i try and nag the old maintainer (günter geiger) to sponsor the package? You are more than welcome to join

Re: Embedding one .deb inside another

2009-11-26 Thread Tim Retout
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 12:59 -0800, Joe Smith wrote: Is this something that's fundamentally impossible or is there some way to achieve what I need? I believe this is fundamentally impossible given your description of the constraints; as you've discovered, dpkg will take out a lock on its status

Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Tony Houghton
What should go in a Debian changelog compared to the upstream changelog? (a) Confine it to new upstream release, a list of any closed debian bugs and packaging changes? (b) As above plus a summary of the most important upstream changes? (c) Details of all the upstream changes too? -- TH *

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:29:31PM +, Tony Houghton wrote: What should go in a Debian changelog compared to the upstream changelog? (a) Confine it to new upstream release, a list of any closed debian bugs and packaging changes? (b) As above plus a summary of the most important upstream

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:29:31PM +, Tony Houghton wrote: What should go in a Debian changelog compared to the upstream changelog? (a) Confine it to new upstream release, a list of any closed debian bugs and packaging changes? Keep it to a minimum (that's what upstream's changelog is

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Ben Finney
Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk writes: What should go in a Debian changelog compared to the upstream changelog? Well now, there's “should” and there's “should”. (a) Confine it to new upstream release, a list of any closed debian bugs and packaging changes? Of the options you present, this

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Tony Houghton
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:35:34 +1100 Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk writes: What should go in a Debian changelog compared to the upstream changelog? Well now, there's “should” and there's “should”. (a) Confine it to new upstream release, a

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Ben Finney
Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk writes: Good point. Is there not a control field where you can give a URL for an upstream changelog? No, I don't think such a thing belongs in the ‘control’ file. There is significant pressure *against* adding fields to that file, since the addition of such a

Re: RFS: glpeces

2009-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Innocent De Marchi tangram.pe...@gmail.com wrote: Section : games ... glpeces- Peces (Tangram game) If you are interested in improving gaming in Debian, you might want to join the Debian Games Team: http://wiki.debian.org/Games/Team -- bye,

Re: Buildd failed: C compiler cannot create executables

2009-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Felipe Sateler fsate...@gmail.com wrote: Your package build-depends on ccache, and it actively enforces it in the debian/rules file. Why is that? I would be willing to bet money that the problem is that buildd's have no (writable) home directory, so ccache

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:50:30AM +1100, Ben Finney a écrit : Rather, it would be good to have a facility similar to the way the Debian changelog is currently available: have the upstream changelog published in a predictable location by package name. A good project from someone with a lot

Re: GNOME default applications

2009-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote: I'm about to release a new version of roxterm and I've been asked to support GNOME default applications http://live.gnome.org/ControlCenter/AddingDefaultApplications. Would you recommend leaving it up to the upstream

Re: Mentor inquiry / Package adoption

2009-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
I'd suggest contacting the currently listed maintainer and asking them if they would like to join you in collaborating on the resumption of maintainence of apt-spy. I'd suggest importing the available history of the software into a git repository and maintaining it in collab-maint:

Re: Embedding one .deb inside another

2009-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Joe Smith spam...@shaw.ca wrote: I'm having an issue with distributing a .deb package that has a dependency on another .deb package that might not be in an available repository (or the target may not have a network connection at the time of installation). What

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: I propose to store this information and similar ones in a parsable file in the debian directory of the packages. For instance, debian/upstream-metadata.yaml. For packages stored in a VCS, this information will be easy to

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Nicolas Alvarez
Ben Finney wrote: This is what I do. Rationale: The Debian changelog, unlike the upstream changelog, is available for all Debian packages using standard tools *before* installing the package, which as a user is the time I most want to see what has changed in a new release of a package.

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:06:51AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: I propose to store this information and similar ones in a parsable file in the debian directory of the packages. For instance,

Re: Debian changelog vs upstream changelog

2009-11-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: Again, all of this is very preliminary and undocumented. The main message I would like to give is that indeed, for all the information that is not specific to Debian, there must be other ways to make them flow from the

Re: Buildd failed: C compiler cannot create executables

2009-11-26 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Hello, thanks for this informations! Fondest regards, Joachim Wiedorn signature.asc Description: PGP signature