Re: diversions

2001-05-05 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 05 May 2001, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: I am currently packaging gfax. In the Debian Policy it is specified that one, willing to divert an executable, should contact the original executable's maintainer. This is there mainly to make sure you damn well know what you're doing when playing

Re: diversions

2001-05-05 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 05 May 2001, Colin Watson wrote: Is this some kind of insurance against problems in the upgrade? When you Yes. I think most of the packages I've seen that use diversions do not remove them in prerm, but rather in postrm purge. I'm not sure¸ though. Still, as long as diversions are

Re: diversions

2001-05-05 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 05 May 2001, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: I am currently packaging gfax. In the Debian Policy it is specified that one, willing to divert an executable, should contact the original executable's maintainer. This is there mainly to make sure you damn well know what you're doing when playing

Re: diversions

2001-05-05 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 05 May 2001, Colin Watson wrote: Is this some kind of insurance against problems in the upgrade? When you Yes. I think most of the packages I've seen that use diversions do not remove them in prerm, but rather in postrm purge. I'm not sure¸ though. Still, as long as diversions are never

Re: Non-free question

2001-05-04 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Fri, 04 May 2001, Warren Stramiello wrote: Sorry, didn't clarify. I should package the library for non-free and the bet for contrib, correct? Yes. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond

Re: Non-free question

2001-05-04 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Fri, 04 May 2001, Warren Stramiello wrote: Sorry, didn't clarify. I should package the library for non-free and the bet for contrib, correct? Yes. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond

Re: Fwd: Re: ardour quasimodo debian packages

2001-05-03 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Thu, 03 May 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an ITP: ardour -- a Linux Digital Audio Workstation (bug #95870). Sadly enough, upstream author doesn't seem to agree on me doing this. What can you advice me to do ? Should I try to convince him ? Or package it anyway ? You could offer

Re: Fwd: Re: ardour quasimodo debian packages

2001-05-03 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Thu, 03 May 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an ITP: ardour -- a Linux Digital Audio Workstation (bug #95870). Sadly enough, upstream author doesn't seem to agree on me doing this. What can you advice me to do ? Should I try to convince him ? Or package it anyway ? You could offer

Long strings in debconf templates (in the short description)

2001-05-02 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
Hello fellow developers, I wonder how strict is the about 50 characters or so limitation on the short description for a debconf template is? I ask this because some translators seem to be fond of tacking long things in there. This has happened to some fetchmail templates, for example. Should

Long strings in debconf templates (in the short description)

2001-05-02 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
Hello fellow developers, I wonder how strict is the about 50 characters or so limitation on the short description for a debconf template is? I ask this because some translators seem to be fond of tacking long things in there. This has happened to some fetchmail templates, for example. Should I

Re: gpg keyrings.

2001-04-30 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Santiago Vila wrote: James Troup wrote: The canonical source for the debian keyring _is_[2] kerying.debian.org (via anon-rsync); period. The package is a convenience, nothing more[3]. A package which is horribly outdated is everything but a convenience. That, I

Re: gpg keyrings.

2001-04-30 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Santiago Vila wrote: James Troup wrote: The canonical source for the debian keyring _is_[2] kerying.debian.org (via anon-rsync); period. The package is a convenience, nothing more[3]. A package which is horribly outdated is everything but a convenience. That, I

Re: first questions

2001-04-26 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: paragraph 6.4.1 it is mentionned that the archive maintainer will chose the appropriate category for a package. Does this mean that one should take arrangement with him before uploading the package (so as Most just peruse the archive, find the

Re: first questions

2001-04-26 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: paragraph 6.4.1 it is mentionned that the archive maintainer will chose the appropriate category for a package. Does this mean that one should take arrangement with him before uploading the package (so as Most just peruse the archive, find the

Re: Policy Questions: Example files in /usr/share/doc

2001-04-17 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Marc Haber wrote: the policy upgrading checklist says: | - Files in /usr/share/doc may not be referenced by any |program. If such files are needed, they must be placed in |/usr/share/package-name/, and symbolic links created as required |in

Re: Policy Question: Startup Scripts and Config Files

2001-04-17 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Marc Haber wrote: I have a package where the init script contains most of the package's functionality, and parses a free-format config file /etc/$PACKAGE.conf. That file is not a shell script and can't be directly sourced. Can I keep that file as /etc/$PACKAGE, should I

Re: Policy Questions: Example files in /usr/share/doc

2001-04-17 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Marc Haber wrote: the policy upgrading checklist says: | - Files in /usr/share/doc may not be referenced by any |program. If such files are needed, they must be placed in |/usr/share/package-name/, and symbolic links created as required |in

Re: Package installation delay

2001-04-09 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Carlos Prados Bocos wrote: But I have only received confirmation of the installation of towitoko, and not of pcsc-lite. I only wanted to know if this is normal, or it means that there is something wrong with the second package. In this case, where should I check if

Re: compile-time dependencies on external sources?

2001-03-27 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Steve Langasek wrote: build time. For questions of maintenance and bandwidth, I've chosen not to include the Samba source in the tarball; I find that automatically downloading I'm facing the same problem. I have a binary-all data package that is 26MB in size. I am not

Re: how to build a package conditionally?

2001-03-06 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Mar 2001, Martin Bialasinski wrote: * Steve M Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am proposing is a source package that generates *both* a "main" and a "contrib" .deb. This is not allowed. Or rather, it is... kinda. You can have your source package generate two sets of

Re: how to build a package conditionally?

2001-03-06 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Mar 2001, Steve M. Robbins wrote: On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 06:54:31PM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: You gain nothing in upload time, but it certains give you less hassle to only have one single source tree in CVS, for example. Yeah, it's a cute hack. Too bad

Re: how to build a package conditionally?

2001-03-06 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Mar 2001, Martin Bialasinski wrote: * Steve M Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I am proposing is a source package that generates *both* a main and a contrib .deb. This is not allowed. Or rather, it is... kinda. You can have your source package generate two sets of .debs

Re: how to build a package conditionally?

2001-03-06 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Mar 2001, Steve M. Robbins wrote: On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 06:54:31PM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: You gain nothing in upload time, but it certains give you less hassle to only have one single source tree in CVS, for example. Yeah, it's a cute hack. Too bad

Re: Package checking

2001-02-25 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Sam TH wrote: Well, sort of. For the packe in question, it does. But say there was a package that depended on both GLib and GNOME (say, by including If your package directly depends on another, declare it. The depends that are to be left 'implicit' are those of the

Re: /etc/ question

2001-02-25 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: Perhaps better: copy it in the postinst, remove the old version in the postinst. Then if any problems arise, the original version will still be present. BAD idea. This will defeat the conffile change detection engine in dpkg, and

Re: Package checking

2001-02-25 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Sam TH wrote: Well, sort of. For the packe in question, it does. But say there was a package that depended on both GLib and GNOME (say, by including If your package directly depends on another, declare it. The depends that are to be left 'implicit' are those of the

Re: /etc/ question

2001-02-25 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: Perhaps better: copy it in the postinst, remove the old version in the postinst. Then if any problems arise, the original version will still be present. BAD idea. This will defeat the conffile change detection engine in dpkg, and will

Re: /etc/ question

2001-02-24 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 03:57:33PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: in your preinst, check for /etc/foo and if it exists, mkdir /etc/package and Perhaps better: copy it in the postinst, remove the old version in the postinst. Then if any problems

Re: /etc/ question

2001-02-24 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 03:57:33PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: in your preinst, check for /etc/foo and if it exists, mkdir /etc/package and Perhaps better: copy it in the postinst, remove the old version in the postinst. Then if any problems

Re: /etc/ question

2001-02-24 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 10:42:38PM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: Yes, that might be a good idea. However, as a rule of thumb, downgrading is not supported (do note that failed/aborted upgrades ARE supported). It isn't? I thought we tried

Re: dpkg-statoverride and creating users in postinst

2001-02-12 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Michael-John Turner wrote: Does anyone know of any packages that have been updated to use dpkg-statoverride for managing suid/sgid binaries owned by users created during the package's postinst? I'm looking for the 'correct' way of Yes, package fcron needs to do this.

Re: dpkg-statoverride and creating users in postinst

2001-02-12 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Michael-John Turner wrote: Does anyone know of any packages that have been updated to use dpkg-statoverride for managing suid/sgid binaries owned by users created during the package's postinst? I'm looking for the 'correct' way of Yes, package fcron needs to do this.

Re: Bug #84829: tar.gz doesn't unpack

2001-02-08 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Thu, 08 Feb 2001, Adam C Powell IV wrote: I'd blame tar or the MIPS port, but that he reproduced on i386 completely baffles me... See http://bugs.debian.org/84829 Well, IMHO, if the md5sums are OK in his side as the bug report states, and tar still fails to unpack, he must have somehow

Re: Bug #84829: tar.gz doesn't unpack

2001-02-08 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Thu, 08 Feb 2001, Adam C Powell IV wrote: I'd blame tar or the MIPS port, but that he reproduced on i386 completely baffles me... See http://bugs.debian.org/84829 Well, IMHO, if the md5sums are OK in his side as the bug report states, and tar still fails to unpack, he must have somehow

Re: the incoming queue for non-US?

2001-01-25 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Junichi Uekawa wrote: In Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:29:21 +0100 Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit : There's no public access to non-US Incoming AFAIR. Anyway, you should get a REJECT email from dinstall if the package gets rejected and you're listed as

Re: the incoming queue for non-US?

2001-01-25 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Junichi Uekawa wrote: In Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:29:21 +0100 Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit : There's no public access to non-US Incoming AFAIR. Anyway, you should get a REJECT email from dinstall if the package gets rejected and you're listed as

Re: time and interest and enough skill

2001-01-22 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I want a xgospel_1.12-4.deb and xgospel_1.12-4.dsc I have been employed as a unix sysadmin and much more recently, perl programmer (and even more recently, my first C project) And I have time. Well, download the required packages to

Re: use debconf directly from init.d?

2001-01-22 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Chris Hanson wrote: Chris Hanson wrote: Any reason not to do this? Debconf is Not a Registry (TM) I second that. Do *NOT* use Debconf as a registry. That is EVIL. Do not do it. That doesn't sound like a reason; it sounds more like an axiom. Care It is

Re: time and interest and enough skill

2001-01-22 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I want a xgospel_1.12-4.deb and xgospel_1.12-4.dsc I have been employed as a unix sysadmin and much more recently, perl programmer (and even more recently, my first C project) And I have time. Well, download the required packages to

Re: use debconf directly from init.d?

2001-01-22 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Chris Hanson wrote: Chris Hanson wrote: Any reason not to do this? Debconf is Not a Registry (TM) I second that. Do *NOT* use Debconf as a registry. That is EVIL. Do not do it. That doesn't sound like a reason; it sounds more like an axiom. Care It is

Re: modifying bugs for non-maintainers/official DD'ers.

2001-01-12 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Brian Russo wrote: I know you're not (unless w/permission, submitter, or maintainer, etc) supposed to close bugs.. but what about things like changing subjects.. merging.. changing severity levels.. QA work in the BTS, helping triage, classify and tag bugs is usually

Re: modifying bugs for non-maintainers/official DD'ers.

2001-01-12 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Brian Russo wrote: I know you're not (unless w/permission, submitter, or maintainer, etc) supposed to close bugs.. but what about things like changing subjects.. merging.. changing severity levels.. QA work in the BTS, helping triage, classify and tag bugs is usually

Tales from the NM front: pools, queues and broken packages

2000-12-21 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
This is just a small list of points to keep in mind... 1. Be careful with upload queues. If you use an upload queue, the packages are moved to ftp-master using someone else's userid. This means you cannot overwrite them or remove them from ftp-master's incoming either, as the queue daemon

Tales from the NM front: pools, queues and broken packages

2000-12-21 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
This is just a small list of points to keep in mind... 1. Be careful with upload queues. If you use an upload queue, the packages are moved to ftp-master using someone else's userid. This means you cannot overwrite them or remove them from ftp-master's incoming either, as the queue daemon refuses

Re: Having problems with my (newly created) debian package

2000-12-10 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Jeremy Higgs wrote: The deb package seems to be fixed in terms of the firewall init.d script and it's removal and install behaviour, but I can't seem to get file permissions working! dh_fixperms changes them. You should force the non-standard permissions you need after

Re: [policy] orig.tar.gz unpacking to surprisingly named subdir! (Re: orig.tar.gz)

2000-12-09 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 09 Dec 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: [ObCrossposts: We should decide what list to discuss this on.] Please do so in debian-policy (reply-to: set). The BTS bug number for this problem is 79210. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and

Re: orig.tar.gz

2000-12-09 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 09 Dec 2000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 11:33:05PM -0200, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: Should I be filling a wishlist bug against lintian, or is it ok (although not optimal) to have .orig.tar.gz files unpacking at foo-1.2.3 instead of foo-1.2.3.orig ? The tools

Re: [policy] orig.tar.gz unpacking to surprisingly named subdir! (Re: orig.tar.gz)

2000-12-09 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 09 Dec 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: [ObCrossposts: We should decide what list to discuss this on.] Please do so in debian-policy (reply-to: set). The BTS bug number for this problem is 79210. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and

orig.tar.gz

2000-12-08 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
Hello, I was playing around with cvs-buildpackage today (*very* slick set of tools, I'm going to send Manoj a thank you note for this one. Heck, if I lived anywhere near him, I'd pay him a insert Manoj's beverage of choice here :-) ), and noticed that my source .orig.tar.gz were a bit bogus:

orig.tar.gz

2000-12-08 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
Hello, I was playing around with cvs-buildpackage today (*very* slick set of tools, I'm going to send Manoj a thank you note for this one. Heck, if I lived anywhere near him, I'd pay him a insert Manoj's beverage of choice here :-) ), and noticed that my source .orig.tar.gz were a bit bogus:

Re: Build problem with `debuild -rsudo' and LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2000-11-25 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Steve Dobson wrote: The make files use LD_LIBRARY_PATH to pick up the libraries that have just been built. However, as I run `debuild -rsudo', the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is of course ignored as the building is being performed as root (why? -- isn't this a bug?), and the

Re: Build problem with `debuild -rsudo' and LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2000-11-25 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Steve Dobson wrote: The make files use LD_LIBRARY_PATH to pick up the libraries that have just been built. However, as I run `debuild -rsudo', the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is of course ignored as the building is being performed as root (why? -- isn't this a bug?), and the

Re: Build problem with `debuild -rsudo' and LD_LIBRARY_PATH

2000-11-25 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: trick for me for a while. Try it before filing the bug, because one would have to code a lot of stuff to get around the need to build .debs as a normal user (i.e.: non-root and not under fakeroot) AFAIK. Erk. I'm not fully awake yet, it seems. I