Conflicts/replaces confusion

2004-03-14 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[Please CC me on replies; I'm not subscribed to -mentors anymore.] I'm currently reorganizing the epydoc source package. For various reasons, I want to get rid of the set of pythonX.Y-epydoc packages and just provide everything in the main python-epydoc package instead. What I can't figure out i

Conflicts/replaces confusion

2004-03-14 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[Please CC me on replies; I'm not subscribed to -mentors anymore.] I'm currently reorganizing the epydoc source package. For various reasons, I want to get rid of the set of pythonX.Y-epydoc packages and just provide everything in the main python-epydoc package instead. What I can't figure out i

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Eek! > > http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-developer-duties.en.html#s-key-maint Double-eek! I'm rather embarrassed, now. :( Anyway, my build-related gaffes aside, ncompress has now made it into testing. Thanks to all of you for your advice and help. KEN -- Kenneth J. Prono

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Eek! > > http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-developer-duties.en.html#s-key-maint Double-eek! I'm rather embarrassed, now. :( Anyway, my build-related gaffes aside, ncompress has now made it into testing. Thanks to all of you for your advice and help. KEN -- Kenneth J. Prono

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Dunno about fakeroot, but why do you want gpg on escher? You really > don't want to be storing your private GPG key on machines you don't > control; copy the built files back to a secure machine and sign there > instead. In retrospect, that's much more sensible than temporarily copying my .gnu

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and > > escher denied my login. > > pdksh wasn't installed; try again. That was it. Thanks! Only problem now is that fakeroot isn't installed on casals and gpg isn't installed on escher. Should I just write debian-admin?

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Dunno about fakeroot, but why do you want gpg on escher? You really > don't want to be storing your private GPG key on machines you don't > control; copy the built files back to a secure machine and sign there > instead. In retrospect, that's much more sensible than temporarily copying my .gnu

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and > > escher denied my login. > > pdksh wasn't installed; try again. That was it. Thanks! Only problem now is that fakeroot isn't installed on casals and gpg isn't installed on escher. Should I just write debian-admin?

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > > You login and do "dchroot sid". This solves alpha (escher), arm > > > (debussy), s390 (raptor), m68k (crest) and mips (casals). - You are > > > only missing ia64. I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and escher denied my login. I had assumed the machines page

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > > You login and do "dchroot sid". This solves alpha (escher), arm > > > (debussy), s390 (raptor), m68k (crest) and mips (casals). - You are > > > only missing ia64. I had no problems getting into debussy, raptor or crest, but casals and escher denied my login. I had assumed the machines page

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> If I were you I'd maybe build it on some of these architectures if I > felt motivated to do so, and then file a bug on ftp.debian.org to get > the old builds removed for the other architectures that are no longer > autobuilding non-free software. If they don't want to autobuild it, why > waste th

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Chroots are usually accessible with 'dchroot ' when and where > they are available. Got it. I was able to do that on debussy for arm, and m68k on crest (although it turns out m6k autobuilds at least some non-free already). > This is one of the reasons why non-free sucks. I understand now. :-)

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-17 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I've think that patent is about to expire. (June 20? I think I saw > > it slashdotted within the past month.) If you can confirm this, just > > wait till then and move it to main. > Unfortunately it seems that that's only true for very us-centric > people, not Debian. Yes - when I dug into

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> If I were you I'd maybe build it on some of these architectures if I > felt motivated to do so, and then file a bug on ftp.debian.org to get > the old builds removed for the other architectures that are no longer > autobuilding non-free software. If they don't want to autobuild it, why > waste th

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Chroots are usually accessible with 'dchroot ' when and where > they are available. Got it. I was able to do that on debussy for arm, and m68k on crest (although it turns out m6k autobuilds at least some non-free already). > This is one of the reasons why non-free sucks. I understand now. :-)

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I've think that patent is about to expire. (June 20? I think I saw > > it slashdotted within the past month.) If you can confirm this, just > > wait till then and move it to main. > Unfortunately it seems that that's only true for very us-centric > people, not Debian. Yes - when I dug into

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > Because I still use it[...] > > I have to ask...why? :-) Well, I think you're poking fun at me, but I'm going to pretend that I didn't notice and give you an answer anyway. :) The main reason I took it is that my Cedar Backup package (not officially in Debian) supports tar.Z backups and henc

Re: Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > Because I still use it[...] > > I have to ask...why? :-) Well, I think you're poking fun at me, but I'm going to pretend that I didn't notice and give you an answer anyway. :) The main reason I took it is that my Cedar Backup package (not officially in Debian) supports tar.Z backups and henc

Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I know this question (or a similar one) comes up periodically both here and on -devel. Unfortunately, I have to ask it again, because I can't find a complete solution to my problem. Because I still use it, I adopted ncompress a few months ago when it was orphaned. I spent a night or two and clos

Build non-free ncompress

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I know this question (or a similar one) comes up periodically both here and on -devel. Unfortunately, I have to ask it again, because I can't find a complete solution to my problem. Because I still use it, I adopted ncompress a few months ago when it was orphaned. I spent a night or two and clos

Re: Perl example scripts

2003-04-21 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I may be speaking out of turn here (just a lurker), but recently I saw > on the RC bugs list a large number of RC bugs that were put against > several packages that were relying on files that came from > /usr/share/doc/ directories. > > Here is the URL to the bug in question > http://bugs.debia

Re: RFS: readpst - Converts Outlook PST files to mbox and others

2003-04-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> License: GPL2 > Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ol2mbox/ Sounds like a cool app. However, what are the "legal issues" that have caused upstream development to stop? I think those probably need to be clarified before your package can be uploaded to Debian (at least, I'd personally wan

Re: Perl example scripts

2003-04-11 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> No, I think you want /usr/share/doc//examples: > > greenwood$ find /usr/share/doc -name "examples" -type d -print | wc --lines > 190 > greenwood$ Yeah, you're right - typo on my part, sorry. My fingers are faster than my brain on Fridays. :-) KEN pgp4L7HShhgtk.pgp Description: PGP signa

Re: Perl example scripts

2003-04-11 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I am packaging the Net::NBName module from CPAN. This module contains > some example scripts which are installed using the 'EXE_FILES' option > to MakeMaker. Should I install these in /usr/bin, > /usr/share/doc/examples or not at all? (And if not /usr/bin, how > should I change their installat

Re: Upload just to change maintainer to @d.o?

2003-03-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I don't know if there is a policy on this. I'd recommend switching to > > your @d.o address as you're doing regular uploads. If by the time of the > > freeze there are still packages left with your old address, an upload > > just to fix that is alright. That's just MHO, YMMV. > > > > this is p

Re: Upload just to change maintainer to @d.o?

2003-03-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I don't know if there is a policy on this. I'd recommend switching to > > your @d.o address as you're doing regular uploads. If by the time of the > > freeze there are still packages left with your old address, an upload > > just to fix that is alright. That's just MHO, YMMV. > > > > this is p

Upload just to change maintainer to @d.o?

2003-03-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Now that my new maintainer application has been approved, I want to start the process of changing the maintainer field in my packages to use my @d.o address rather than my personal address. What is the recommended practice on uploading new versions of packages just for "minor" changes like this?

Upload just to change maintainer to @d.o?

2003-03-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Now that my new maintainer application has been approved, I want to start the process of changing the maintainer field in my packages to use my @d.o address rather than my personal address. What is the recommended practice on uploading new versions of packages just for "minor" changes like this?

Re: Lintain changelog-file-not-compressed error: how can I fix this?

2003-02-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I'm getting this Lintain error for my package called "gav": > > E: gav: changelog-file-not-compressed CHANGELOG Hmm. I think that if you use: dh_installchangelogs CHANGELOG rather than listing it in debian/docs, that will take care of your problem. KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL

Re: Lintain changelog-file-not-compressed error: how can I fix this?

2003-02-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I'm getting this Lintain error for my package called "gav": > > E: gav: changelog-file-not-compressed CHANGELOG Hmm. I think that if you use: dh_installchangelogs CHANGELOG rather than listing it in debian/docs, that will take care of your problem. KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL

Re: PythonCard packaging advice?

2003-02-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> In general, you have a single source package (e.g. python-pythoncard) which > builds/installs for each available Python version (and Build-Depends on the > -dev version for each of those, obviously) into a python-pythoncard > package, and an empty python-pythoncard package that Depends on the > c

Re: PythonCard packaging advice?

2003-02-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > > This is getting a bit more complicated than I expected it to be. I'd > > > appreciate any advice you can give me. > > I don't know why you split docs and samples, I'd put them in one package, > > the samples go into /usr/share/doc//examples/. The doc package > > depending on either of the li

Re: PythonCard packaging advice?

2003-02-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> In general, you have a single source package (e.g. python-pythoncard) which > builds/installs for each available Python version (and Build-Depends on the > -dev version for each of those, obviously) into a python-pythoncard > package, and an empty python-pythoncard package that Depends on the > c

Re: PythonCard packaging advice?

2003-02-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > > This is getting a bit more complicated than I expected it to be. I'd > > > appreciate any advice you can give me. > > I don't know why you split docs and samples, I'd put them in one package, > > the samples go into /usr/share/doc//examples/. The doc package > > depending on either of the li

Re: PythonCard packaging advice?

2003-02-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I've now noticed that this doesn't conform to policy and I'm a little > > confused about what packages I should provide. > Only the name of the module package is against policy - it should be > python-pythoncard. I'm going to take this to mean python2.2-pythoncard/python2.3-pythoncard based o

Re: PythonCard packaging advice?

2003-02-04 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I've now noticed that this doesn't conform to policy and I'm a little > > confused about what packages I should provide. > Only the name of the module package is against policy - it should be > python-pythoncard. I'm going to take this to mean python2.2-pythoncard/python2.3-pythoncard based o

PythonCard packaging advice?

2003-02-03 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Hi, I filed an ITP for PythonCard (http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net), and I've made a first pass at packaging it. I built the following binary packages: libpythoncard-python pythoncard-samples pythoncard-doc Each depends on python (>=2.2), python (<<2.3). The libpythoncard-python pa

PythonCard packaging advice?

2003-02-03 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Hi, I filed an ITP for PythonCard (http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net), and I've made a first pass at packaging it. I built the following binary packages: libpythoncard-python pythoncard-samples pythoncard-doc Each depends on python (>=2.2), python (<<2.3). The libpythoncard-python pa

Re: Package Versioning question

2003-01-21 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> This is exactly why I asked - the real key word here is 'should'. It's > not a must, but on the other hand, it's not unreasonable, either. I've > written to upstream to begin talking with them about this and other > issues, and who knows, maybe they'll want to go to a reasonable version > numbe

Re: Package Versioning question

2003-01-21 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> This is exactly why I asked - the real key word here is 'should'. It's > not a must, but on the other hand, it's not unreasonable, either. I've > written to upstream to begin talking with them about this and other > issues, and who knows, maybe they'll want to go to a reasonable version > numbe

Re: Package Versioning question

2003-01-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I have a question about how to proceed. I am considering packaging a > program, and it uses a nonstandard versioning scheme. It ends up > looking like -DR7.10. dh_make doesn't parse this - this in > itself trivial to work around, but it made me stop and wonder if this > is because the versioni

Re: Package Versioning question

2003-01-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> I have a question about how to proceed. I am considering packaging a > program, and it uses a nonstandard versioning scheme. It ends up > looking like -DR7.10. dh_make doesn't parse this - this in > itself trivial to work around, but it made me stop and wonder if this > is because the versioni

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> From policy: > "Java libraries must depend on the needed runtime environment (java1-runtime > and/or java2-runtime) but should not depend (only suggest) > java-virtual-machine." Right. I will use this: Depends: kaffe | java1-runtime, java-common Suggests: java-virtual-machine I think

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-22 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> From policy: > "Java libraries must depend on the needed runtime environment (java1-runtime and/or >java2-runtime) but should not depend (only suggest) java-virtual-machine." Right. I will use this: Depends: kaffe | java1-runtime, java-common Suggests: java-virtual-machine I think tha

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-21 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement. Parts of this thread (which is now a week+ long) have gotten lost along the way :), so to su

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-21 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Ok... I've gotten a lot of answers on this thread, which I REALLY appreciate. This is what I love about Debian. :-) I just want to take one last pass at my question, to make sure everyone's in agreement. Parts of this thread (which is now a week+ long) have gotten lost along the way :), so to su

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> If you want to specify which of a set of real packages should be the > default to satisfy a particular dependency on a virtual package, you > should list the real package as an alternative before the virtual one. > > If kaffe works for Kenneth, I guess his Depends line is fine. By

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> If you want to specify which of a set of real packages should be the > default to satisfy a particular dependency on a virtual package, you > should list the real package as an alternative before the virtual one. > > If kaffe works for Kenneth, I guess his Depends line is fine. By

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> $ apt-cache show kaffe > ..snip.. > Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime > > So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You don't need to write dependency > for kaffe. Ok, that makes sense. KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Personal Homepage: http://www.sk

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> $ apt-cache show kaffe > ..snip.. > Provides: java-virtual-machine, java-runtime, java1-runtime > > So, kaffe provides java-virtual-machine. You don't need to write dependency > for kaffe. Ok, that makes sense. KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Personal Homepage: http://www.sk

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > You should list the working package first : > > > > working-java | java-common > > And it should look like this instead. > > working-jvm | java-virtual-machine. Ok. I will change it to: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common Is this correct? KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovic

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-20 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > You should list the working package first : > > > > working-java | java-common > > And it should look like this instead. > > working-jvm | java-virtual-machine. Ok. I will change it to: Depends: kaffe | java-virtual-machine, java-common Is this correct? KEN -- Kenneth J. Pronovic

Re: File a bug against my own package?

2002-11-19 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> OTOH, the BTS can serve as a todo list, which is why I regularly file > bugs against my own packages. This is especially useful when you hand > over the package later and haven't done everything you wanted to do > (for lack of time or sth.), the new maintainer will then have an idea > of what you

Re: File a bug against my own package?

2002-11-19 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> OTOH, the BTS can serve as a todo list, which is why I regularly file > bugs against my own packages. This is especially useful when you hand > over the package later and haven't done everything you wanted to do > (for lack of time or sth.), the new maintainer will then have an idea > of what you

File a bug against my own package?

2002-11-19 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
While testing a patch from upstream to fix a bug in my libxmltv-perl package, I discovered another bug related to the package version for libhtml-tableextract-perl (one XMLTV script requires 1.08, the Debian version of the package is 1.06-2). I've filed a bug against libhtml-tableextract-perl requ

File a bug against my own package?

2002-11-19 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
While testing a patch from upstream to fix a bug in my libxmltv-perl package, I discovered another bug related to the package version for libhtml-tableextract-perl (one XMLTV script requires 1.08, the Debian version of the package is 1.06-2). I've filed a bug against libhtml-tableextract-perl requ

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] > gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with > gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly > doesn't work wi

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-16 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I think this is still topical to both debian-mentors and debian-java. Someone tell me if they want it moved to one or the other...] > gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with > gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly > doesn't work wi

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with > gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly > doesn't work with gcj? Could you please file a bug report? > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html > That way we at least know about the issue. > > Also Kaff

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> gcj is supposed to come with a working jni implementation and comes with > gij (GNU Interpreter for Java) for interpreting bytecode. What exactly > doesn't work with gcj? Could you please file a bug report? > http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html > That way we at least know about the issue. > > Also Kaff

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Erm, i think it is even worse, i think that the users would need to > install the j2sdk1.3 package or else it will be unusable. This also > means that your package will never enter testing, i think, or maybe > there is some kind of override for contrib/non-free packages. Also, the > j2sdk1.3 is a

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or > non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of > the licencing issues. > > Because of that, this particular dependency will never be really > satisfied, the auto builders will not be able to build

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Erm, i think it is even worse, i think that the users would need to > install the j2sdk1.3 package or else it will be unusable. This also > means that your package will never enter testing, i think, or maybe > there is some kind of override for contrib/non-free packages. Also, the > j2sdk1.3 is a

j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please CC me on replies, if possible.] Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build dependency on j2sdk1.3 cannot be satisfied on all 13 platforms? http://qa.deb

Re: j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> Last i knew, j2sdk1.3 is not part of debian, be it in main, contrib or > non-free, because it is not possible for us to distribute it because of > the licencing issues. > > Because of that, this particular dependency will never be really > satisfied, the auto builders will not be able to build

j2sdk build-depends cannot be satisfied?

2002-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
[I'm cross-posting to debian-java and debian-mentors, because I'm not sure whether this is a Java question or a packaging question. Please CC me on replies, if possible.] Can anyone suggest why libnbio2-java's build dependency on j2sdk1.3 cannot be satisfied on all 13 platforms? http://qa.deb

Looking for sponsor for several related packages

2002-10-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Hello - I'm working through the new maintainer process. My application manager, Andrew Suffield, has reviewed several new packages of mine as a part of the process. He says: > The next step is to get some or all of these uploaded to the archive. > . > . > . > Once you're happy with them, find a

Looking for sponsor for several related packages

2002-10-12 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Hello - I'm working through the new maintainer process. My application manager, Andrew Suffield, has reviewed several new packages of mine as a part of the process. He says: > The next step is to get some or all of these uploaded to the archive. > . > . > . > Once you're happy with them, find a