Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-17 Thread Eray Ozkural (exa)
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:03:43PM +0300, Peter Novodvorsky wrote: And democracy is: -- you have more money -- you have more power (not rights). This is capitalism, not democracy. In Debian, capitalism has no place, as there is no currency, and we don't exchange

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-17 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:03:43PM +0300, Peter Novodvorsky wrote: And democracy is: -- you have more money -- you have more power (not rights). This is capitalism, not democracy. In Debian, capitalism has no place, as there is no currency, and we don't exchange

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-16 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
++ 16/01/01 01:41 +1100 - Daniel Stone: Enter Debian, 2001. Democracy. (Yeah, my arse). NMs aren't allowed to speak a non-positive word against so-called "senior developers" because they're just little, unimportant NMs. Did anyone moderated you from debian-devel? What do you mean by

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:03:43PM +0300, Peter Novodvorsky wrote: And democracy is: -- you have more money -- you have more power (not rights). This is capitalism, not democracy. In Debian, capitalism has no place, as there is no currency, and we don't exchange anything. We only contribute

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-16 Thread Daniel Stone
++ 16/01/01 01:41 +1100 - Daniel Stone: Enter Debian, 2001. Democracy. (Yeah, my arse). NMs aren't allowed to spe= ak a non-positive word against so-called "senior developers" because they're just little, unimportant NMs.=20 Did anyone moderated you from debian-devel? What do you mean

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-16 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
++ 16/01/01 01:41 +1100 - Daniel Stone: Enter Debian, 2001. Democracy. (Yeah, my arse). NMs aren't allowed to speak a non-positive word against so-called senior developers because they're just little, unimportant NMs. Did anyone moderated you from debian-devel? What do you mean by ``aren't''

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:03:43PM +0300, Peter Novodvorsky wrote: And democracy is: -- you have more money -- you have more power (not rights). This is capitalism, not democracy. In Debian, capitalism has no place, as there is no currency, and we don't exchange anything. We only contribute and

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-16 Thread Daniel Stone
++ 16/01/01 01:41 +1100 - Daniel Stone: Enter Debian, 2001. Democracy. (Yeah, my arse). NMs aren't allowed to spe= ak a non-positive word against so-called senior developers because they're just little, unimportant NMs.=20 Did anyone moderated you from debian-devel? What do you mean by

(long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Daniel Stone
(Joey, this is CC'ed to you because of the DAM bit, please take it to heart). As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm just waiting DAM approval. You too? Whacky. Seems to be the tale of virtually every person in the NM queue I know. Passed PP. Passed TS.

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Daniel! You wrote: I think Craig (Sanders) summed it up beautifully in his email where he said that the DAM was a servant-type job, not a master. How would you like it if a submarine captain just vanished on holiday without telling anyone because he couldn't be stuffed going on his next

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Stefan Nobis
Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They _are_ allowed to speak, of course. They are not allowed to flame. I don't read NMs that flamed. I only read debian developers who flamed (stop that shit and the like). The NMs only asked questions, mostly polite. -- Until the next mail...,

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Eray Ozkural (exa)
Daniel Stone wrote: (Joey, this is CC'ed to you because of the DAM bit, please take it to heart). As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm just waiting DAM approval. You too? Whacky. Seems to be the tale of virtually every person in the NM queue

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:56:47PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: 1) James did post on -private about this 2) The DAM is the one who DECIDES whether you are accepted as a developer or not. He is not just someone who creates accounts. As a delegate of the project leader (e.g.

(long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Daniel Stone
(Joey, this is CC'ed to you because of the DAM bit, please take it to heart). As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm just waiting DAM approval. You too? Whacky. Seems to be the tale of virtually every person in the NM queue I know. Passed PP. Passed TS.

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Daniel! You wrote: I think Craig (Sanders) summed it up beautifully in his email where he said that the DAM was a servant-type job, not a master. How would you like it if a submarine captain just vanished on holiday without telling anyone because he couldn't be stuffed going on his next

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Stefan Nobis
Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They _are_ allowed to speak, of course. They are not allowed to flame. I don't read NMs that flamed. I only read debian developers who flamed (stop that shit and the like). The NMs only asked questions, mostly polite. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Daniel Stone wrote: (Joey, this is CC'ed to you because of the DAM bit, please take it to heart). As I mentioned before, I have passed all tasks and skills to become a NM, I'm just waiting DAM approval. You too? Whacky. Seems to be the tale of virtually every person in the NM

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:56:47PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: 1) James did post on -private about this 2) The DAM is the one who DECIDES whether you are accepted as a developer or not. He is not just someone who creates accounts. As a delegate of the project leader (e.g.

Re: (long reply) Re: NM saga (all of it - Joey, this means you)

2001-01-15 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:01:45PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: [snip] Joey informed me that he is no longer a DAM, so James is the only one we have right now. (the NM web pages need to be updated.) [snip] if the job is too much for one person, or if James is too busy with other stuff then we