Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-08-02 Thread Roman Hodek
> Before forcing the maintainers to make themselfes the work to figure > these dependencies out we should tell them that such a list already > exists! (And don't tell me that they should have known it from > various discussions under strange topics in some lists!) The central source dependency li

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-08-02 Thread Roman Hodek
> Before forcing the maintainers to make themselfes the work to figure > these dependencies out we should tell them that such a list already > exists! (And don't tell me that they should have known it from > various discussions under strange topics in some lists!) The central source dependency l

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-08-01 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 04:49:44PM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > > Before forcing the maintainers to make themselfes the work to figure these > dependencies out we should tell them that such a list already exists! > (And don't tell me that they should have known it from various discussions > u

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-08-01 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 04:49:44PM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > > Before forcing the maintainers to make themselfes the work to figure these > dependencies out we should tell them that such a list already exists! > (And don't tell me that they should have known it from various discussions >

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-31 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello On Mon, 31.07.00 11:22 +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > See here for some of the source-dependencies the autobuilders use: > http://buildd.debian.org/andrea/m68k/source-dependencies-unstable.gz ... > I did not follow the discussion completely, but I think its rather > pointless, since

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-31 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello On Mon, 31.07.00 11:22 +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > See here for some of the source-dependencies the autobuilders use: > http://buildd.debian.org/andrea/m68k/source-dependencies-unstable.gz ... > I did not follow the discussion completely, but I think its rather > pointless, since

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-31 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Hammers wrote: > (It's just that I bet that we never get build-depends if maintainers are > forced to guess them theirselves w/o automatic help) One source package in 4 has build depends now. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/org/ftp.debian.org/ftp/dists/unstable>find . |egrep '(.diff|.tar.gz)' | grep

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-31 Thread Joey Hess
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Slight bugs in programs used in the build process; I've seen it happen. > I also have a report of a program hanging if you strace it. Funnily > enough that was noticed when somebody straced a package build. Could > be an strace bug, program bug or kernel bug, but definitel

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-31 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Hammers wrote: > (It's just that I bet that we never get build-depends if maintainers are > forced to guess them theirselves w/o automatic help) One source package in 4 has build depends now. joeyh@auric:/org/ftp.debian.org/ftp/dists/unstable>find . |egrep '(.diff|.tar.gz)' | grep -v '

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-31 Thread Joey Hess
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Slight bugs in programs used in the build process; I've seen it happen. > I also have a report of a program hanging if you strace it. Funnily > enough that was noticed when somebody straced a package build. Could > be an strace bug, program bug or kernel bug, but definite

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-31 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:42:41PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > > Well, I never received a mail froma an autobuilder saying that one of > > my packages (about 10) were examined and found to have the following > > buildtime dependencies. > > Probably becau

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-31 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 10:42:41PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > > Well, I never received a mail froma an autobuilder saying that one of > > my packages (about 10) were examined and found to have the following > > buildtime dependencies. > > Probably beca

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > Well, I never received a mail froma an autobuilder saying that one of > my packages (about 10) were examined and found to have the following > buildtime dependencies. Probably because it's a recent change. > Maybe this should be done so that they can be incl

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Christian Hammers
> > (It's just that I bet that we never get build-depends if maintainers are > > forced to guess them theirselves w/o automatic help) > We get build-depends since some of the autobuilders build packages in > minimal chroots and detect problems automatically. Well, I never received a mail froma an

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > Well, I never received a mail froma an autobuilder saying that one of > my packages (about 10) were examined and found to have the following > buildtime dependencies. Probably because it's a recent change. > Maybe this should be done so that they can be inc

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:35:09AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > > Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > > > Attached you find a patch against dpkg-buildpackage which creates a > > > debian/strace.debhelper file when running "debian/rules build". There was a suggestion to write a wrapper libra

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Christian Hammers
> > (It's just that I bet that we never get build-depends if maintainers are > > forced to guess them theirselves w/o automatic help) > We get build-depends since some of the autobuilders build packages in > minimal chroots and detect problems automatically. Well, I never received a mail froma a

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 11:35:09AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: > > Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > > > Attached you find a patch against dpkg-buildpackage which creates a > > > debian/strace.debhelper file when running "debian/rules build". There was a suggestion to write a wrapper libr

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > Off-Topic: Why does it has this limitation? Lack of development time, subtle kernel bugs, etc. strace is not a trivial application. > Ok, what about this, I make a dpkg-genbuilddeps and a patch to debuild so > that it *optionally* runs strace only if the user

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello > Trust me, I'm upstream maintainer for strace so I'm reasonably aware > of its features :) Off-Topic: Why does it has this limitation? > > And remember that this is only a "suggestive" tool like dpkg-shlibdeps, > > if your package is so strange that it really does not work you can omit it

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > > 1. strace can't handle more then 256 subprocesses, a limit you can (and > > will) reach when building packages. > really? I'll check it. Trust me, I'm upstream maintainer for strace so I'm reasonably aware of its features :) > > 2. strace'ing an application

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello [forwarded to debian-mentors as the main discussion was there] On Sat, 29.07.00 19:20 +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > > Attached you find a patch against dpkg-buildpackage which creates a > > debian/strace.debhelper file when running "debian/rules buil

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > Off-Topic: Why does it has this limitation? Lack of development time, subtle kernel bugs, etc. strace is not a trivial application. > Ok, what about this, I make a dpkg-genbuilddeps and a patch to debuild so > that it *optionally* runs strace only if the use

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello > Trust me, I'm upstream maintainer for strace so I'm reasonably aware > of its features :) Off-Topic: Why does it has this limitation? > > And remember that this is only a "suggestive" tool like dpkg-shlibdeps, > > if your package is so strange that it really does not work you can omit it

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > > 1. strace can't handle more then 256 subprocesses, a limit you can (and > > will) reach when building packages. > really? I'll check it. Trust me, I'm upstream maintainer for strace so I'm reasonably aware of its features :) > > 2. strace'ing an applicatio

Re: Bug#67896: Support patch for dh_builddeps

2000-07-30 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello [forwarded to debian-mentors as the main discussion was there] On Sat, 29.07.00 19:20 +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > > Attached you find a patch against dpkg-buildpackage which creates a > > debian/strace.debhelper file when running "debian/rules bui