I was wondering, why are init scripts installed as conffiles? Is there a
good reason other than that they're in /etc and nobody bothered to make
an exception in debhelper?
I would have thought it would be better to treat them as not to be
modified by the user/admin; any init configuration should
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 04:33:25PM +, Tony Houghton wrote:
[...]
I would have thought it would be better to treat them as not to be
modified by the user/admin; any init configuration should be done via
/etc/default.
In years gone by, I've frequently had to manually adjust initscript
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:05:41 +
The Fungi fu...@yuggoth.org wrote:
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 04:33:25PM +, Tony Houghton wrote:
[...]
I would have thought it would be better to treat them as not to be
modified by the user/admin; any init configuration should be done via
/etc/default.
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Tony Houghton, 2011-02-15 17:33:
I was wondering, why are init scripts installed as conffiles?
Debain switched to dependency-based boot with Squeeze and those
dependencies are controlled by the LSB headers inside each init script.
On the majority
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 05:27:39PM +, Tony Houghton wrote:
I'd consider packages which require editing of the init script instead
of using /etc/default or similar to be badly designed at best. I know
fixing the mass of existing packages would be too big a job, but I
thought it might be
Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk writes:
I'd consider packages which require editing of the init script instead
of using /etc/default or similar to be badly designed at best. I know
fixing the mass of existing packages would be too big a job, but I
thought it might be possible to provide a new
Hi, Michael:
On Tuesday 15 February 2011 18:37:38 Michael Fladischer wrote:
Tony Houghton, 2011-02-15 17:33:
I was wondering, why are init scripts installed as conffiles?
Debain switched to dependency-based boot with Squeeze and those
dependencies are controlled by the LSB headers inside
* Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net [110215 20:40]:
Anyway, my position would be that init script shouldn't have to be config
files. For this to be true these steps should need to be worked on:
1) See for boot dependencies not being stablished in the init script itself (a
sourced
Hi
On Tuesday 15 February 2011, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
Hi, Michael:
On Tuesday 15 February 2011 18:37:38 Michael Fladischer wrote:
Tony Houghton, 2011-02-15 17:33:
I was wondering, why are init scripts installed as conffiles?
Debain switched to dependency-based boot with Squeeze
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Tony Houghton wrote:
I was wondering, why are init scripts installed as conffiles? Is
there a good reason other than that they're in /etc and nobody
bothered to make an exception in debhelper?
Anything that is in /etc should be editable by the admin, and changes
respected
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:33:25 +
Tony Houghton h...@realh.co.uk wrote:
I was wondering, why are init scripts installed as conffiles? Is there a
good reason other than that they're in /etc and nobody bothered to make
an exception in debhelper?
I would have thought it would be better
On Tuesday 15 February 2011 15:16:27 Tony Houghton wrote:
How about I file a wishlist bug for dpkg and apt for an option similar
to purge but which only purges files which haven't been altered from the
package's default?
From what I understand, neither APT nor dpkg know if a file has been
Jesús M. Navarro jesus.nava...@undominio.net writes:
Anyway, my position would be that init script shouldn't have to be
config files. For this to be true these steps should need to be worked
on:
[...]
Given that nearly all of the Linux distribution work on init systems right
now is towards
On 2011-02-15 22:24 +0100, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Tuesday 15 February 2011 15:16:27 Tony Houghton wrote:
How about I file a wishlist bug for dpkg and apt for an option similar
to purge but which only purges files which haven't been altered from the
package's default?
From what I
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Tony Houghton wrote:
I don't like about it is that init scripts get left behind when
uninstalling packages.
Configuration files are always left behind unless you purge a package.
It wouldn't be quite so bad if packages called update-rc.d disable
on their init scripts
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Tony Houghton wrote:
I don't like about it is that init scripts get left behind when
uninstalling packages.
Configuration files are always left behind unless you purge a package.
Sure. That doesn't
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:06:20 -0800
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Tony Houghton wrote:
It wouldn't be quite so bad if packages called update-rc.d disable
on their init scripts when removed so that init doesn't read the
disused scripts, but AFAICT from the Policy
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:50:53 +0100
Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:
On 2011-02-15 22:24 +0100, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On Tuesday 15 February 2011 15:16:27 Tony Houghton wrote:
How about I file a wishlist bug for dpkg and apt for an option
similar to purge but which only purges
Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
Sure. That doesn't make it correct, optimal, or the best option, just
how things have always been done.
I understand the difference between remove and purge and the reason to
use both, but removing unmodified conf files seems like a win to me.
Keeps the clutter down.
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote:
Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
Sure. That doesn't make it correct, optimal, or the best option, just
how things have always been done.
I understand the difference between remove and purge and the reason to
use both, but removing
On Tuesday 15 February 2011 16:44:49 Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote:
Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
I understand the difference between remove and purge and the reason to
use both, but removing unmodified conf files seems like a win to me.
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:04:10 -0600
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
On Tuesday 15 February 2011 16:44:49 Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote:
Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
I understand the difference between remove and
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