NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Jarno Elonen
> unless they can give some demonstration that they're into more than just > making packages. Fixing bugs, for instance. This advice is quite usual on this list. I think there are a few reasons why it's not as common thing for non-DDs to do as it maybe could be: + There are so many packages an

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 03:44:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 04:56:46PM +0300, Jarno Elonen wrote: > > I.e. aside from trying to convince someone that Debian would benefit from > > having you around (I, for one, have an advocate already) or fixing bugs from > > packages

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:02:05AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 03:44:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Have you tried http://bugs.qa.debian.org/? > > http://bugs.qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/standard.cgi says that bison has 3 > serious bugs. > > Page discarded as useless du

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-13 02:25]: > The fact that pkgreport.cgi doesn't display them is a bug in > debbugs, not Well, then we can still blame you. :-P -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Jarno Elonen wrote: > > unless they can give some demonstration that they're into more than just > > making packages. Fixing bugs, for instance. > > This advice is quite usual on this list. I think there are a few reasons why > it's not as common thing for non-DDs to do as

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jarno Elonen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030412 11:20]: > > unless they can give some demonstration that they're into more than just > > making packages. Fixing bugs, for instance. > This advice is quite usual on this list. I think there are a few reasons why > it's not as common thing for non-DDs to

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 11:36:15AM +0300, Jarno Elonen wrote: > This advice is quite usual on this list. I think there are a few reasons why > it's not as common thing for non-DDs to do as it maybe could be: > > + There are so many packages and so many bugs that it's really hard to >say wher

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Jarno Elonen
> Pointing someone at a package they're not interested in won't work, either, > though. Dunno what the solution is, but surely every prospective DD can > find enough packages they use on a regular basis and find bugs in them? I currently have 1104 packages installed maybe 15 on which I'm even som

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Andreas Barth
* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030412 13:05]: > You've got the release-critical bug list, which is a good place to > start. Not really. Most bugs need much knowledge of debian (or the policy), or work on non-i386-platforms, or a recompilation, or mixed. For the last two things it's very much

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 11:36:15AM +0300, Jarno Elonen wrote: > > unless they can give some demonstration that they're into more than just > > making packages. Fixing bugs, for instance. > > This advice is quite usual on this list. I think there are

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 02:41:53PM +0200, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 11:36:15AM +0300, Jarno Elonen wrote: > >I've been playing around with an idea of making a nice local > >frontend for BTS by adding a procmail filter that would intercept > >incoming mail. But:

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Jarno Elonen
> > + There are so many packages and so many bugs that it's really hard to > >say where to start. > > this is an upstream bug I wont fix anytime soon, so here is something > to start with: > http://bugs.debian.org/71419 > webcheck: Could it be internationalized? Tips like this are good of cou

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 04:56:46PM +0300, Jarno Elonen wrote: > I.e. aside from trying to convince someone that Debian would benefit from > having you around (I, for one, have an advocate already) or fixing bugs from > packages you are interested in: > >which bugs (and more importantly) _in_

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 03:44:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 04:56:46PM +0300, Jarno Elonen wrote: > > I.e. aside from trying to convince someone that Debian would benefit from > > having you around (I, for one, have an advocate already) or fixing bugs > > from > > pac

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:02:05AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 03:44:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Have you tried http://bugs.qa.debian.org/? > > http://bugs.qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/standard.cgi says that bison has 3 > serious bugs. > > Page discarded as useless du

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-13 02:25]: > The fact that pkgreport.cgi doesn't display them is a bug in > debbugs, not Well, then we can still blame you. :-P -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Jarno Elonen wrote: > Since stable base packages (in addition to effective developmen tools!) are > the most important factor in making a stable OS, it would be good to have > more work concentrated on them. As Colin has already pointed out, bugs.qa.debian.org can give list

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-13 Thread Jarno Elonen
> Sounds like something a prospective DD might like to have a go at. > Especially someone who has plans to perhaps hack dpkg, apt, or something > like that. Groping through the packages DB is the main part, counting > outstanding bugs should be pretty simple. Anyone want to give it a whirl? I th

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 12:21:49PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-13 02:25]: > > The fact that pkgreport.cgi doesn't display them is a bug in > > debbugs, not > > Well, then we can still blame you. :-P You'll note that bugreport.cgi has improved recen

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-13 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Jarno Elonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030412 11:41]: > + The bug tracking system is a less clear and more difficult to use >than in many other open projects. > >I, for instance, find it a lot easier to work with KDE's or even >OOo's bug trackers than Debian's. Being email based (an thus

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-13 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:25:43AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 01:02:05AM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 03:44:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > Have you tried http://bugs.qa.debian.org/? > > > > http://bugs.qa.debian.org/cgi-bin/standard.cgi

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 03:19:03PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sun, Apr 13, 2003 at 02:25:43AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > (Hint for the unaware: #166130, #166897, #167054. The fact that > > pkgreport.cgi doesn't display them is a bug in debbugs, not > > bugs.qa.debian.org.) > > So bugs.

Re: NM's to fix bugs? (Was: Asking for an advocate (gURLChecker))

2003-04-13 Thread Jarno Elonen
> > (Hint for the unaware: #166130, #166897, #167054. The fact that > > pkgreport.cgi doesn't display them is a bug in debbugs, not > > bugs.qa.debian.org.) > > So bugs.qa.debian.org has a different notion of what constitutes an RC > bug in a package to everything else My guess is that pkgreport j