Re: Build-Depends :native

2019-06-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2019-06-22 12:20 +0200, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote: > Hello, > > can someone please tell me a source about the meaning of :native in the > Build-Depends? The architecture you are building on, see deb-src-control(5): , | An architecture qualifier name can be a real Debian architecture name |

Re: Build-Depends for a Python wrapper

2018-12-25 Thread Matthew Fernandez
> On Dec 25, 2018, at 02:41, Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 06:09:04PM -0800, Matthew Fernandez wrote: >> Hello Debian Mentors, >> >> I???m preparing to request a piece of software I maintain be made >> available on Debian and have been doing my homework trying to package >>

Re: Build-Depends for a Python wrapper

2018-12-25 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 06:09:04PM -0800, Matthew Fernandez wrote: > Hello Debian Mentors, > > I???m preparing to request a piece of software I maintain be made > available on Debian and have been doing my homework trying to package > it correctly. > > It???s a C++ binary, but comes with a Python w

Re: build-depends for different distro releases

2018-03-02 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Fri, 2 Mar 2018, 10:54 p.m. Daniel Sperka, wrote: >It seems that under stretch, libvtk5 has been replaced by libvtk6, and > libpng12 by libpng16. > This is the *very* reason for which -dev packages shouldn't contain the soversion... Given that you are using cowbuilder, which respects th

Re: build-depends for different distro releases

2018-03-02 Thread Dan Kegel
I put 'em all on separate lines so I can add comments; my control tends to look like this for packages that build on multiple versions of ubuntu: Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7), # libpng12-dev for ubuntu 16.04, libpng-dev for ubuntu 17.10 and up libpng12-dev | libpng-dev, libvtk6-dev | libv

Re: build-depends on a _source_ package ?

2017-06-13 Thread Benoît Rouits
Thank you Christian for your clear explanation. I think i only need the headers files, but i will check this before to file a bug to the qtcreator package, so. Thankfully, Benoît Le 13/06/2017 à 08:54, Christian Seiler a écrit : Hi, On 06/12/2017 11:05 PM, Benoît Rouits wrote: Is there a sol

Re: build-depends on a _source_ package ?

2017-06-12 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi, On 06/12/2017 11:05 PM, Benoît Rouits wrote: > Is there a solution ? Should i file a bug on WNPP to ask for a > qtcreator-dev package in order to have qtcreator source installed in > /usr/src ? Do you need the entire source of Qt Creator or just some header files? In either case, you can onl

Re: Build-Depends issue between matplotlib and basemap on anything but amd64

2017-01-20 Thread Sandro Tosi
work is already in progress, no need to prod or write stuff like "Don't do that." is not helping anyone On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > [Sandro Tosi in CC] > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 11:05:44PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 05:53:04PM +0100,

Re: Build-Depends issue between matplotlib and basemap on anything but amd64

2017-01-20 Thread Andreas Tille
[Sandro Tosi in CC] On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 11:05:44PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 05:53:04PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > matplotlib build-depends on: > > - python3-mpltoolkits.basemap:arm64 > > python3-mpltoolkits.basemap depends on: > > - python3-matplotlib:ar

Re: Build-Depends issue between matplotlib and basemap on anything but amd64

2017-01-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 05:53:04PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > matplotlib build-depends on: > - python3-mpltoolkits.basemap:arm64 > python3-mpltoolkits.basemap depends on: > - python3-matplotlib:arm64 > python3-matplotlib depends on: > - python-matplotlib-data:arm64 (>= 2.0.0~rc2-1) > matplotlib

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-04 Thread Taylor Kline
On Jan 3, 2017 9:33 PM, "Paul Wise" wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Taylor Kline wrote: > Thanks, that does help a lot, and it helped me to realize that the packages > are built on the Debian machines and sent to users already built, so there's > no need for the users to install the Build

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Taylor Kline wrote: > Thanks, that does help a lot, and it helped me to realize that the packages > are built on the Debian machines and sent to users already built, so there's > no need for the users to install the Build-Depends, right? Right, except users might w

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-03 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 12:52:26PM -0500, Taylor Kline wrote: > Thanks, that does help a lot, and it helped me to realize that the packages > are built on the Debian machines and sent to users already built, so > there's no need for the users to install the Build-Depends, right? Right. -- WBR, wR

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-03 Thread Taylor Kline
On Jan 2, 2017 4:56 PM, "Octavio Alvarez" wrote: If you are using "apt install" then the packages under Build-Depends are not installed at all, only those under Depends, and, because they are needed for the program to work, those are not uninstalled after installation. If you are using "apt buil

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-03 Thread Taylor Kline
On Jan 2, 2017 10:06 PM, "Paul Wise" wrote: You might be interested in looking at some of these diagrams to discover more about how Debian works: https://wiki.debian.org/Diagrams You can look up any confusing jargon you find in this glossary: https://wiki.debian.org/Glossary -- bye, pabs htt

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Taylor Kline wrote: > What is the difference? How are they treated differently during the > apt installation process? Thanks :) You might be interested in looking at some of these diagrams to discover more about how Debian works: https://wiki.debian.org/Diagrams

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-02 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 01/02/2017 06:06 AM, Taylor Kline wrote: > Thank you, Octavio. Does this mean apt will temporarily install > the Build-Depends packages and remove them after the installation > completes? If you are using "apt install" then the packages under Build-Depends are not installed at all, only those u

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-02 Thread Ben Finney
Taylor Kline writes: > Thank you, Octavio. Does this mean apt You mean ‘dpkg’. APT is a tool to fetch packages and to make requests to ‘dpkg’. It is ‘dpkg’'s job to do the actual install/remove of each individual package. > will temporarily install the Build-Depends packages and remove them >

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 09:06:10AM -0500, Taylor Kline wrote: > Thank you, Octavio. Does this mean apt will temporarily install the > Build-Depends > packages and remove them after the installation completes? apt doesn't build the package during install. Packages that you install are already built.

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-02 Thread Taylor Kline
Thank you, Octavio. Does this mean apt will temporarily install the Build-Depends packages and remove them after the installation completes?

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-02 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 01/01/2017 04:07 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Taylor Kline writes: > >> What is the difference [between the “Build-Depends” field and the >> “Depends” field]? > > The difference is precisely that between building the package from > source, versus using the package installed. For example, a compil

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2017-01-01 Thread Ben Finney
Taylor Kline writes: > What is the difference [between the “Build-Depends” field and the > “Depends” field]? The difference is precisely that between building the package from source, versus using the package installed. The “Build-Depends” and “Build-Depends-Indep” fields appear only in the sou

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2016-12-30 Thread Narcis Garcia
Build-Depends should not make any effect during package installation process, because it's a dependency only for package-building process. __ I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at lists.debian.org archives. El 30/12/16 a les 05:31, Taylor

Re: Build-Depends vs Depends

2016-12-29 Thread Harlan Lieberman-Berg
Taylor Kline writes: > What is the difference? How are they treated differently during the > apt installation process? Thanks :) Build-Depends is used only during build-time. (Usually on the buildds, though it can be on developer's computers as well.) Depends, on the other hand, are packages th

Re: Build-Depends on source itself [libgap-sage]

2016-11-02 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 12:11:37PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > > Let give a try. I am dealing with the libgap-sage package [1]. > > Thanks for the extensive details. > > > To begin with, GAP is a Computer Algebra System (CAS). > > From an u

Re: Build-Depends on source itself [libgap-sage]

2016-11-02 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 03:22:41AM +, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello, > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > > >> for one of my package, libgap-sage [1], the source material used for build > >> is in fact seded meterial from an other package, gap: grossely the sed > >>

Re: Build-Depends on source itself [libgap-sage]

2016-11-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Thanks for your prompt reply. On 02/11/16 04:11, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > >> Let give a try. I am dealing with the libgap-sage package [1]. > > Thanks for the extensive details. You are welcome.

Re: Build-Depends on source itself [libgap-sage]

2016-11-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > 2] The scripts that modify the original GAP source files is not distributed > within > the libgap upstream source ball, but it is available via the libgap git > repository [2] at Bitbucket > along some documentation for generating our own m

Re: Build-Depends on source itself [libgap-sage]

2016-11-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Let give a try. I am dealing with the libgap-sage package [1]. Thanks for the extensive details. > To begin with, GAP is a Computer Algebra System (CAS). > From an upstream point of view, libgap is not part of GAP itself. > libgap is rather

Re: Build-Depends on source itself [libgap-sage]

2016-11-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, On 01/11/16 05:19, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > >> for one of my package, libgap-sage [1], the source material used for build >> is in fact seded meterial from an other package, gap: grossely the sed >> process >> is the main part of libgap pa

Re: Build-Depends on source itself

2016-11-01 Thread Ben Finney
Jerome BENOIT writes: > for one of my package, libgap-sage [1], the source material used for build > is in fact seded meterial from an other package, gap One good solution would be to have the ‘gap’ package build a new binary package, maybe ‘gap-data’, that contains the data you need in a format

Re: Build-Depends on source itself

2016-11-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Is there any guidance for such source packages ? Which ones of them I may > consider > a good example. They are all about the same, ship the source under /usr/src, done. > I guess it is the best way to proceed. It is probably the least go

Re: Build-Depends on source itself

2016-11-01 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, thanks for the quick reply. On 01/11/16 05:19, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > >> for one of my package, libgap-sage [1], the source material used for build >> is in fact seded meterial from an other package, gap: grossely the sed >> process >> i

Re: Build-Depends on source itself

2016-10-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > for one of my package, libgap-sage [1], the source material used for build > is in fact seded meterial from an other package, gap: grossely the sed process > is the main part of libgap package: is there a standard way to use the Debian > sour

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Which is why all shared libraries should use at least trivial symbol > versioning that assigns all symbols a version that changes with the > SONAME. Perhaps a pedantic/info lintian complaint is in order? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.or

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > If your app is linked against libavcodec53 and against libavdevice53 and > libavdevice53 is linked against libavcodec54 and libavcodec* doesn't use > symbol versioning, your app will crash because of symbol conflicts. Which is why all shared libraries should use at l

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-21 Thread Paul Gevers
Please ignore the mail below, I think I understand that part now. libavdevice53 itself depends on libavcodec5{3|4} depending on where it comes from. Paul On 21-03-13 08:04, Paul Gevers wrote: > Hi Andrey, > > On 21-03-13 07:46, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:17:50PM +01

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-21 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 08:04:10AM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote: > >>> Maybe I've picked the wrong example, the actual problem was with > >>> libavdevice53, the same soname is used for either 0.8.5-1 and 9.3-1, > >>> but 9.3-1 links to libavcodec54 while 0.8.5-1 links to libavcodec53, so > >>> my binar

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-21 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Andrey, On 21-03-13 07:46, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:17:50PM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote: >>> Maybe I've picked the wrong example, the actual problem was with >>> libavdevice53, the same soname is used for either 0.8.5-1 and 9.3-1, >>> but 9.3-1 links to libavcodec54 w

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 07:17:50PM +0100, Paul Gevers wrote: > > Maybe I've picked the wrong example, the actual problem was with > > libavdevice53, the same soname is used for either 0.8.5-1 and 9.3-1, > > but 9.3-1 links to libavcodec54 while 0.8.5-1 links to libavcodec53, so > > my binary ended

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-20 Thread Paul Gevers
On 20-03-13 15:54, Antonio Ospite wrote: > Maybe I've picked the wrong example, the actual problem was with > libavdevice53, the same soname is used for either 0.8.5-1 and 9.3-1, > but 9.3-1 links to libavcodec54 while 0.8.5-1 links to libavcodec53, so > my binary ended up importing either libavcod

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 03:54:13PM +0100, Antonio Ospite wrote: > Maybe I've picked the wrong example, the actual problem was with > libavdevice53, the same soname is used for either 0.8.5-1 and 9.3-1, > but 9.3-1 links to libavcodec54 while 0.8.5-1 links to libavcodec53, so > my binary ended up im

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-20 Thread Antonio Ospite
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 10:10:51 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: > Antonio Ospite writes: > > > Should I restrict the Depends for the binary packages by hand in > > debian/control? For example adding: > > > libavcodec53 (<< 6:9) > > > to the binary package I am interested in restricting? > > Yes.

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-20 Thread Antonio Ospite
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:51:26 +0100 Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Antonio Ospite , 2013-03-19, 16:15: > >for a package I am working on, I am setting versioned Build-Depends, to > >avoid using newer libav versions which would break compilation, e.g.: > > > > libavcodec-dev (<< 6:9) > > > >Compilation

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-19 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Antonio Ospite , 2013-03-19, 16:15: for a package I am working on, I am setting versioned Build-Depends, to avoid using newer libav versions which would break compilation, e.g.: libavcodec-dev (<< 6:9) Compilation under pbuilder for Sid goes fine, but the binary packages are still a

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Antonio Ospite writes: > Should I restrict the Depends for the binary packages by hand in > debian/control? For example adding: > libavcodec53 (<< 6:9) > to the binary package I am interested in restricting? Yes. The shared library dependency information otherwise comes from shlibs/symb

Re: Build-Depends versioning and binary Depends versioning

2013-03-19 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 04:15:57PM +0100, Antonio Ospite wrote: > Compilation under pbuilder for Sid goes fine, but the binary packages > are still allowed to be installed with newer libav binary packages: > >libavcodec53 (>= 6:0.8.3-1~) | libavcodec-extra-53 (>= 6:0.8.5) Of course, becaus

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:42:03PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:39:20PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > I checked, and dh currently doesn't support build-arch and build-indep > > at all internally (you need to add the rules yourself). I've made a > > patch to add proper sup

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:39:20PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > I checked, and dh currently doesn't support build-arch and build-indep > at all internally (you need to add the rules yourself). I've made a > patch to add proper support which I'll submit once I've tested it. FWIW, the current progre

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 05:03:39PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Roger Leigh writes: > > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 07:09:44PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> > >> Now why does it only list 8k sources if it matches the required > >> "build:" target? Are 50% of all sources already d

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh writes: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 07:09:44PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > Output at http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/build-rule-check.bz2 >> > I haven't had time to analyse this, if someone else wants to, >> > that would be cool. >> > >> > Done on lintian.debian.org using t

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-21 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 07:09:44PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Output at http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/build-rule-check.bz2 > > I haven't had time to analyse this, if someone else wants to, > > that would be cool. > > > > Done on lintian.debian.org using the following: > > > > #!/bin/

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh writes: > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:23:59PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 01:29:12PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> > In <20101120183255.gf12...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes >> > Holschuh >> > wrote: >> > >On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Boyd Step

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:23:59PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 01:29:12PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > In <20101120183255.gf12...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes > > Holschuh > > wrote: > > >On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > >> >

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 01:29:12PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <20101120183255.gf12...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes > Holschuh > wrote: > >On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> >But hey, all the maintainer has to do is add 1, in words ONE, char to > >

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." writes: > In <20101120183255.gf12...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes > Holschuh > wrote: >>On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >>> >But hey, all the maintainer has to do is add 1, in words ONE, char to >>> >debian/rules. Just change "build:" to

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20101120183255.gf12...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> >But hey, all the maintainer has to do is add 1, in words ONE, char to >> >debian/rules. Just change "build:" to "build%:" and dpkg-buildpackage >> >could us

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >But hey, all the maintainer has to do is add 1, in words ONE, char to > >debian/rules. Just change "build:" to "build%:" and dpkg-buildpackage > >could use build-arch/indep targets instead of build. Aparently that is > >too much to ask. > > I v

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 01:30:00PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. a écrit : > > I volunteer to make /this/ fix to any package that is unmaintained or whose > maintainer is unresponsive, *if* Debian will change policy to /require/ build- > arch/indep and make dpkg-buildpackage use them instead of b

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <87y68p6tcx@frosties.localnet>, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >Roger Leigh writes: >> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 04:40:57PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>> David Kalnischkies writes: >>> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 19:25, أحمد المحمودي wrote: >>> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 07

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh writes: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 04:40:57PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> David Kalnischkies writes: >> >> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 19:25, أحمد المحمودي >> > wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 07:07:07PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >>> And as disc

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-19 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 04:40:57PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > David Kalnischkies writes: > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 19:25, أحمد المحمودي > > wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 07:07:07PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >>> And as discussed before policy disagrees

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
David Kalnischkies writes: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 19:25, أحمد المحمودي > wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 07:07:07PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>> And as discussed before policy disagrees with reality in this. >> >> Would you please elaborate ? > > Goswin likely refers

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 19:25, أحمد المحمودي wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 07:07:07PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> And as discussed before policy disagrees with reality in this. > > Would you please elaborate ? Goswin likely refers to this thread: Buildd & binary-indep http://lists.de

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-18 Thread أحمد المحمودي
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 07:07:07PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > And as discussed before policy disagrees with reality in this. > ---end quoted text--- Would you please elaborate ? -- ‎أحمد المحمودي (Ahmed El-Mahmoudy) Digital design engineer GPG KeyID: 0xEDDDA1B7 GPG Fingerprint

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
anatoly techtonik writes: > Hello, > > I've described situation around Build-Depends-Indep at > http://wiki.debian.org/Build-Depends-Indep > I hope it will be useful for people who are looking for description of > this field. However, I am not expert in packaging, and some > information is obviou

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > anatoly techtonik wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:02 AM, أحمد المحمودي >> >> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I thought Build-Depends-Indep is for build-deps that are not needed by >>> clean target. >> >> What is the meaning of name "Build-Depends-Inde

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-17 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:02 AM, أحمد المحمودي > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I thought Build-Depends-Indep is for build-deps that are not needed by >> clean target. > > What is the meaning of name "Build-Depends-Indep" then? Dependencies > that are required to build package

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-17 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:02 AM, أحمد المحمودي wrote: > Hello, > >  I thought Build-Depends-Indep is for build-deps that are not needed by >  clean target. What is the meaning of name "Build-Depends-Indep" then? Dependencies that are required to build package, but from which "clean" rule is indep

Re: Build-Depends-Indep, please review

2010-11-05 Thread أحمد المحمودي
Hello, I thought Build-Depends-Indep is for build-deps that are not needed by clean target. -- ‎أحمد المحمودي (Ahmed El-Mahmoudy) Digital design engineer GPG KeyID: 0xEDDDA1B7 GPG Fingerprint: 8206 A196 2084 7E6D 0DF8 B176 BC19 6A94 EDDD A1B7 signature.asc Description: Digital signa

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and build target

2006-12-19 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Joachim Reichel may or may not have written... >> The underlying problem is that build-arch/indep are not mandatory and thus >> building must call the "build" target. > Any chance that this will be changed for lenny? If build-arch and > build-indep are optional and there is no relia

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and build target

2006-12-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Florent Rougon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The underlying problem is that build-arch/indep are not mandatory and >> thus building must call the "build" target. > > This makes sense, thanks for pointing it out. > >> If build-indep does take a c

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and build target

2006-12-18 Thread Joachim Reichel
Hi, > The underlying problem is that build-arch/indep are not mandatory and > thus building must call the "build" target. Any chance that this will be changed for lenny? If build-arch and build-indep are optional and there is no reliable way to find out whether these targets exist, what's the use

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and build target

2006-12-18 Thread Florent Rougon
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The underlying problem is that build-arch/indep are not mandatory and > thus building must call the "build" target. This makes sense, thanks for pointing it out. > If build-indep does take a considerable time then you can use the > following hack

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and build target

2006-12-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Florent Rougon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > Joachim Reichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> section 7.6 of the policy states that Build-Depends-Indep must be >> satisfied if the build target is invoked. > > [...] > >> Now, if my sponsor uploads this package, it will still fail,

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and build target

2006-12-17 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Joachim Reichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > section 7.6 of the policy states that Build-Depends-Indep must be > satisfied if the build target is invoked. [...] > Now, if my sponsor uploads this package, it will still fail, right? If > Build-Depends-Indep is not satisfied by acciden

Re: Build depends....?

2006-06-23 Thread Mihai Felseghi
Thamk you all for the help, I will try to combine all the tricks you have teached me Cheers. Mihai Felseghi. On 6/23/06, Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 01:51:14PM -0300, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > Hi! > > On 6/23/06, Mihai Felseghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Build depends....?

2006-06-23 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 01:51:14PM -0300, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > Hi! > > On 6/23/06, Mihai Felseghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello dear mentors , please tell me if there is a method of finding > >the build depends for a piece of software (so i can fill the > >Build-Depends field of

Re: Build depends....?

2006-06-23 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Mihai Felseghi said: > Masami Ichikawa wrote: > > on 06/24/06 01:48, Mihai Felseghi wrote: > >>> Hello dear mentors , please tell me if there is a method of finding > >>> the build depends for a piece of software > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]% objdump -p /usr/bin/flux

Re: Build depends....?

2006-06-23 Thread Mihai Felseghi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Masami Ichikawa wrote: > Hi. > > on 06/24/06 01:48, Mihai Felseghi wrote: >>> Hello dear mentors , please tell me if there is a method of finding >>> the build depends for a piece of software (so i can fill the >>> Build-Depends field of the control

Re: Build depends....?

2006-06-23 Thread Masami Ichikawa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. on 06/24/06 01:48, Mihai Felseghi wrote: > Hello dear mentors , please tell me if there is a method of finding > the build depends for a piece of software (so i can fill the > Build-Depends field of the control file)? I tried to use the script f

Re: Build depends....?

2006-06-23 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Hi! On 6/23/06, Mihai Felseghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello dear mentors , please tell me if there is a method of finding the build depends for a piece of software (so i can fill the Build-Depends field of the control file)? I tried to use the script from New Maintainers Guide but it gave

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-04 Thread Frank Küster
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What concern do porters have with architecture-all-only-packages? > > With most Arch: all packages, little to none. The concern is actually in > *not* having stuff that is *only* needed for -indep targets (which will > generally never be built by porting ma

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-04 Thread Frank Küster
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What concern do porters have with architecture-all-only-packages? > > With most Arch: all packages, little to none. The concern is actually in > *not* having stuff that is *only* needed for -indep targets (which will > generally never be built by porting ma

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-01 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 09:57:10AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:54:42PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> for practice and because I want to use it, I am working on a package of > >> the CVS version of auctex, a

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-01 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 09:57:10AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:54:42PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> for practice and because I want to use it, I am working on a package of > >> the CVS version of auctex, a

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-01 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Either I don't understand your sentence, or I have a problem reading the >policy. In Or I was wrong. :) >file:///usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch-miscellaneous.html#s-deb >ianrules > >I can find statements about the targets binary-arch and bi

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-01 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi. Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Either I don't understand your sentence, or I have a problem reading the >policy. In Or I was wrong. :) >file:///usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch-miscellaneous.html#s-deb >ianrules > >I can find statements about the targets binary-arch and bi

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-01 Thread Frank Küster
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:54:42PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: >> Hi, >> >> for practice and because I want to use it, I am working on a package of >> the CVS version of auctex, a LaTeX mode for Emacs. Since it's only an >> Emacs-addon written in Lisp, it'

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-01 Thread Frank Küster
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Küster wrote: >> In the original package's control file, there is a line of >> Build-Depends-Indep, but no Build-Depends. Does this make sense for a >> source package that has no architecture dependent binary packages at >> all? Why not just use

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-01 Thread Frank Küster
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:54:42PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: >> Hi, >> >> for practice and because I want to use it, I am working on a package of >> the CVS version of auctex, a LaTeX mode for Emacs. Since it's only an >> Emacs-addon written in Lisp, it'

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-08-01 Thread Frank Küster
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Küster wrote: >> In the original package's control file, there is a line of >> Build-Depends-Indep, but no Build-Depends. Does this make sense for a >> source package that has no architecture dependent binary packages at >> all? Why not just use

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-07-31 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:54:42PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Hi, > > for practice and because I want to use it, I am working on a package of > the CVS version of auctex, a LaTeX mode for Emacs. Since it's only an > Emacs-addon written in Lisp, it's of course architecture independent. > > In d

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-07-31 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Frank Küster wrote: > In the original package's control file, there is a line of > Build-Depends-Indep, but no Build-Depends. Does this make sense for a > source package that has no architecture dependent binary packages at > all? Why not just use Build-Depends here and use Build-Depends-Indep > on

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-07-31 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:54:42PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Hi, > > for practice and because I want to use it, I am working on a package of > the CVS version of auctex, a LaTeX mode for Emacs. Since it's only an > Emacs-addon written in Lisp, it's of course architecture independent. > > In d

Re: Build-Depends-Indep and packages with architecture all

2003-07-31 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Frank Küster wrote: > In the original package's control file, there is a line of > Build-Depends-Indep, but no Build-Depends. Does this make sense for a > source package that has no architecture dependent binary packages at > all? Why not just use Build-Depends here and use Build-Depends-Indep > on

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Is there a right way for using the source of a different > debian-package? Look into apt-src if you are interested in developing this kind of idea. The source-dependency approach has many pitfalls, and is not something that is sup

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Is there a right way for using the source of a different > debian-package? Look into apt-src if you are interested in developing this kind of idea. The source-dependency approach has many pitfalls, and is not something that is sup

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 02:15:11PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:42:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 01:17:13PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > >> Is there a right way for using the source of a different > >> debian-package? > > > For ocaml,

Re: Build-Depends on source of a different package?

2003-02-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, I'd like to move this discussion to the exim4debian ml. On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 02:23:41PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: >> If you're wondering: The package in question would be exim v4 with the >> exiscan patch applied. - It cannot simply be built from the exim4 >> source-package because the

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