Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: > The only problem I see is that PET does not really scale well to lots of > packages, the page gets quite cluttered. So I don't know if pulling the > whole collab-maint area will be of any use. I suppose that depends on how much or little w

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Felipe Sateler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/06/10 01:55, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > I started working on a version of PET that supports several VCS > backends, even for a single instance: all packages show up on a single > package no matter in which of the known VCS they live in. > For no

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Felipe Sateler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 13/06/10 10:05, Tim Retout wrote: > Proposal > > > I am considering creating a new workflow for my sponsoring: > > * Maintaining packages in git in collab-maint. (I don't think we > want a separate pkg-mentors repository,

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney writes: > Ansgar Burchardt writes: >> All of these notes are removed before the upload so they do not show up >> in the released packages. >> >> I think this is a very good method to communicate with other team >> members about the current state of packages. This works brilliantly, b

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:25:07PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> Ansgar Burchardt writes: >>> I think this is a very good method to communicate with other team >>> members about the current state of packages. > Leaving notes is a good communication method? Seriously? > How about *talking* to eac

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
Ansgar Burchardt writes: All of these notes are removed before the upload so they do not show up in the released packages. I think this is a very good method to communicate with other team members about the current state of packages. Leaving notes is a good communication method? Seriously?

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Ben Finney
Tim Retout writes: > I'm not particularly attached to the choice of VCS; but what I do > think is important is that people /do/ choose a VCS. Rather, I think it's important (for the good reasons you explained) that a package maintainer *use* a VCS for their packaging work. They don't have to ch

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-14 Thread Tim Retout
On 14 June 2010 02:20, Ben Finney wrote: > Paul Wise writes: > >> As said on IRC, "cue anti-git flamage". In debian we use a multitude >> of version control systems and we shouldn't impose choice of a >> specific VCS nor force people to use a VCS. I personally maintain >> packages in git, in SVN

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread Ben Finney
Ansgar Burchardt writes: > Ben Finney writes: > > > I'm not sure what “coordinating via notes at the top of > > debian/changelog” means. Bear in mind that the changelog is > > primarily for communicating package changes *to users* of those > > packages. > > The Perl Group makes use of this: in t

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Ben Finney writes: > Paul Wise writes: > >> As said on IRC, "cue anti-git flamage". In debian we use a multitude >> of version control systems and we shouldn't impose choice of a >> specific VCS nor force people to use a VCS. I personally maintain >> packages in git, in SVN and in no VCS an

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Wise writes: > As said on IRC, "cue anti-git flamage". In debian we use a multitude > of version control systems and we shouldn't impose choice of a > specific VCS nor force people to use a VCS. I personally maintain > packages in git, in SVN and in no VCS and prefer either no VCS or SVN > f

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Tim Retout wrote: >      * Maintaining packages in git in collab-maint. (I don't think we >        want a separate pkg-mentors repository, because once people >        graduate from mentors they would feel compelled to move away.) As said on IRC, "cue anti-git f

Re: RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread George Danchev
Quoting "Tim Retout" : [Please excuse the long email. I welcome comments.] Hi, a lot of helpful technical details, already used for years [1] (though I don't know what PET is), however I still can't see how the 'splitted brain syndrome' is dealt with, the logical problem, i.e. mentee X

RFC: Using git/collab-maint/PET for debian-mentors.

2010-06-13 Thread Tim Retout
[Please excuse the long email. I welcome comments.] There has been some recent discussion on debian-mentors about the difficulties being faced by contributors seeking sponsorship, i.e. that DDs willing to sponsor packages are short on time and/or motivation. In my view, this is an important issue