Re: RFS: snap2 rsync-based backup program with GUI (with Debian source)

2010-07-28 Thread Julien Viard de Galbert
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 06:49:10PM -0600, Lloyd Standish wrote: I looked at zenity. From the man page which describes the command line options, I don't think it is capable of a complex dialog with different types of input fields and action buttons, all available in the same multi-tabbed

RFS: snap2 rsync-based backup program with GUI (with Debian source)

2010-06-15 Thread Lloyd Standish
Hello All, My previous RFS for this package was premature because I had not prepared the Debian source files. Even though the package contains no compiled code, this was a gross omission, for which I apologize. I have carefully built the Debian source files according to the documentation.

Re: RFS: snap2 rsync-based backup program with GUI (with Debian source)

2010-06-15 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 15 Jun 2010, Lloyd Standish wrote: Debian source: http://files.lstandish.com/snap2-source The package appears to be lintian-clean. How do you come to that idea? I unpacked your package, built it with dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot, and run lintian on the resulting package: $ ls

Re: RFS: snap2 rsync-based backup program with GUI (with Debian source)

2010-06-15 Thread Lloyd Standish
Dear Norbert, Thank you for your help with my snap2 project. The package appears to be lintian-clean. How do you come to that idea? Of course I came to that idea by running lintian (Lintian v1.24.2.1+lenny1) against the binary deb. It reported nothing (clean). I think the problem is

Re: RFS: snap2 rsync-based backup program with GUI (with Debian source)

2010-06-15 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-06-15, Lloyd Standish ll...@crnatural.net wrote: It did not occur to me to check for gtkdialog in Sid (it is available in Lenny http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gtkdialog). So, until there is a gtkdialog package in Sid, snap2 cannot run. This is a great disappointment - I put a lot

Re: RFS: snap2 rsync-based backup program with GUI (with Debian source)

2010-06-15 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 15 Jun 2010, Lloyd Standish wrote: Of course I came to that idea by running lintian (Lintian v1.24.2.1+lenny1) against the binary deb. It reported nothing (clean). I think the problem is that I am running the Debian stable (Lenny) version of dpkg-dev, and you are probably running

Re: RFS: snap2 rsync-based backup program with GUI (with Debian source)

2010-06-15 Thread Lloyd Standish
Norbert, Thanks very much for pointing out how lintian is used to check a source package. I would have seen this if I had read the lintian man page carefully. I looked at zenity. From the man page which describes the command line options, I don't think it is capable of a complex dialog with

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-12 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at [100612 06:49]: One of the ways dpkg-source v3 differs from dpkg-source v1 is that any debian/ directory in the orig.tar.gz is removed before the debian.tar.gz is unpacked. So debian.tar.gz cannot be empty and the upstream debian/ directory if any is

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-12 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Thomas Goirand tho...@goirand.fr [100612 07:54]: I am quite sure that I read it somewhere, however, I can't find it again. It was more important in the past. Since there is the version 3 source format, an debian/ directory in the upstream tarball is only unecessary and no longer harmful. So no

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-12 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Bernhard R. Link wrote: No, it is exactly correct and one of the important improvements of v3 that the .orig.tar.gz's debian/ dir is completely removed. Contraticted, I agree that v3 has lots of improvements, that is not one of it. Wasn't there *one* point in the list of

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-12 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 11 Jun 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: I don't think this has the implication that it sounds like you believe it has. Suppose that you're packaging something where upstream includes a Thanks Russ, I completely agree. In fact I ask upstream to not ship debian. I only wanted to make clear that

RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Lloyd Standish
Hello DD's: My name is Lloyd Standish. I am the author and upstream maintainer of snap2, a fast, easy-to-use rsync-based backup program with GUI. It is considered tested/stable after several months of testing. I first released it publicly in 2009, but I used a previous version of the

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Johan Van de Wauw
Hello Lloyd, * I see no source package. You really need one. Since you don't need to compile anything, just specifying where files have to be copied in the debian/install file should be sufficient. Perhaps search for artwork packages to find examples. Johan On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Lloyd

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
Lloyd Standish wrote: Hello DD's: My name is Lloyd Standish. I am the author and upstream maintainer of snap2, a fast, easy-to-use rsync-based backup program with GUI. It is considered tested/stable after several months of testing. I first released it publicly in 2009, but I used a

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Lloyd Standish
@Thomas, Thanks for your comments. Screenshots of the snap2 GUI are here: http://linuxbackups.org/node/25. I did not mention every feature of snap2 in my RFS (I did however link to the program webpage where you could read more about it.) snap2 does *not* do exactly the same thing as Dirvish.

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Pietro Battiston
Sorry if I express my maybe unrequested opinion, but my search of a really usable backup software ([0]) lately made me think that maybe (hopefully) writers of backup software would appreciate some more feedback. Il giorno ven, 11/06/2010 alle 01.18 -0600, Lloyd Standish ha scritto: You may

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Lloyd Standish
Johan, your suggestion of looking at at art package was very helpful. I get a (separate) source package together as soon as I can. It is ironic in this case that the upstream source tree that I develop from is (except for the changlog files and man page, which I keep elsewhere) an exact copy

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Lloyd Standish
I agree. That's one of the reasons I wrote snap2. Users do not have to know what a hard link is to use the program, nor touch any configuration files, nor use the command line. When accessing the snapshot backups on the backup media, the fact that most of the files are hard-linked together

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Lloyd Standish
Hello Thomas, Yes, I mean arch independent due to the fact that it is written in bash, an interpreted language. What I am pointing out is that anyone who downloads the binary deb package has all the source that I do. But, again, I understand the rules for a separate source package, and I'll

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
Lloyd Standish wrote: Johan, your suggestion of looking at at art package was very helpful. I get a (separate) source package together as soon as I can. It is ironic in this case that the upstream source tree that I develop from is (except for the changlog files and man page, which I keep

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Thomas Goirand wrote: While it is ok to keep your debian folder in your VCS, remember that your orig.tar.gz should NOT contain it. It's less of an issue if you use source format 3.0 (Quilt) but this is still the policy in Debian. That is a recommendation, but by far not a

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote: Of course upstream can ship all necessary debian files as is, where is the problem? Then the diff would be empty, or the debian.tar.gz would be empty, and that is fine. One of the ways dpkg-source v3 differs from

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
- Original message - On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Thomas Goirand wrote: While it is ok to keep your debian folder in your VCS, remember that your orig.tar.gz should NOT contain it. It's less of an issue if you use source format 3.0 (Quilt) but this is still the policy in Debian. That is

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Lloyd Standish
Hi, Since my snap2 source is debianized, I though maybe this could be a Debian native package, and avoid the diff.gz entirely. However, in the debian-mentors FAQ by Matthew Palmer (http://people.debian.org/~mpalmer/debian-mentors_FAQ.html) I see the following advice: When to use a native vs

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Thomas Goirand wrote: Quite not!!! It is even written in many places that if the upstram ships a debian folder in its tar.gz, we should get in touch and at least ask that it is renamed as debian-upstream or something similar. If you do not trust what I say, go read the

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Paul Wise wrote: Of course upstream can ship all necessary debian files as is, where is the problem? Then the diff would be empty, or the debian.tar.gz would be empty, and that is fine. One of the ways dpkg-source v3 differs from dpkg-source v1 is that any debian/

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote: That is not compliant with what it *SHOULD* do. If there is a debian dir in upstream (again, anyone showing me the policy point forbidding that) then files in their should be replaced or whatever, but it is not

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at writes: On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Paul Wise wrote: One of the ways dpkg-source v3 differs from dpkg-source v1 is that any debian/ directory in the orig.tar.gz is removed before the debian.tar.gz is unpacked. So debian.tar.gz cannot be empty and the upstream

Re: RFS: 'snap2' rsync-based backup program with GUI

2010-06-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
Norbert Preining wrote: On Sa, 12 Jun 2010, Thomas Goirand wrote: Quite not!!! It is even written in many places that if the upstram ships a debian folder in its tar.gz, we should get in touch and at least ask that it is renamed as debian-upstream or something similar. If you do not