Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-30 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 10:49:52PM -0400, Michael MacFadden wrote: Brian, Point taken. But I happen to be the upstream author for this project. So it's not like I just picked this out of a hat, and it's not like I am in the position to say, Well maybe I should just pick something easier

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-29 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 10:49:52PM -0400, Michael MacFadden wrote: Brian, Point taken. But I happen to be the upstream author for this project. So it's not like I just picked this out of a hat, and it's not like I am in the position to say, Well maybe I should just pick something easier

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-28 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 07:56:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: The issue is that providing a package for a webapp that only integrates with certain webserver packages in Debian splits the userbase between those who have a reason to want to use your package, and those who have to do the

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-28 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 07:56:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: The issue is that providing a package for a webapp that only integrates with certain webserver packages in Debian splits the userbase between those who have a reason to want to use your package, and those who have to do the

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Jochen Friedrich
Hi Michael, I posted several messages to this list earlier this month about getting my package sponsored. Lots of people gave me great suggestions on how to improve the packing and other general ideas. However no one seemed interested in uploading the package. I have been monitoring this

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Steve Langasek
Michael, On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:01:02PM -0400, Michael MacFadden wrote: I posted several messages to this list earlier this month about getting my package sponsored. Lots of people gave me great suggestions on how to improve the packing and other general ideas. However no one seemed

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 10:32:11PM +0200, Stephan Beyer wrote: Hi, I posted several messages to this list earlier this month about getting my package sponsored. Lots of people gave me great suggestions on how to improve the packing and other general ideas. However no one seemed

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Michael MacFadden
Steve, Thanks for your response. I appreciate the time you took to write out the email. Even a critical response is very valuable. I would like to address some of the points you made. I do agree that the support of web apps is not perfect at the moment. The virtual host problem is probably

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Brian Nelson
I think you're missing the point. It's not that developers think this should not be packaged. It's that packaging a web app is so difficult to get right that only developers with a very strong personal interest in the software would be willing to even look at it. The vast majority will consider

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Michael MacFadden
Brian, Point taken. But I happen to be the upstream author for this project. So it's not like I just picked this out of a hat, and it's not like I am in the position to say, Well maybe I should just pick something easier to package. The only reason I am looking into packaging this is

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 08:41:16PM -0400, Michael MacFadden wrote: Plenty of web apps do not separate configuration from presentation at all which tends to make maintenance a nightmare. Streamline however has only 1 configuration file which has about 5 lines in it that set up the

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Michael MacFadden
Steve Langasek wrote: The issue is that providing a package for a webapp that only integrates with certain webserver packages in Debian splits the userbase between those who have a reason to want to use your package, and those who have to do the integration work themselves anyway and won't see any

Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Michael MacFadden
Hello, I posted several messages to this list earlier this month about getting my package sponsored. Lots of people gave me great suggestions on how to improve the packing and other general ideas. However no one seemed interested in uploading the package. I have been monitoring this for

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Stephan Beyer
Hi, I posted several messages to this list earlier this month about getting my package sponsored. Lots of people gave me great suggestions on how to improve the packing and other general ideas. However no one seemed interested in uploading the package. What you describe is the same

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Jochen Friedrich
Hi Michael, I posted several messages to this list earlier this month about getting my package sponsored. Lots of people gave me great suggestions on how to improve the packing and other general ideas. However no one seemed interested in uploading the package. I have been monitoring this

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Steve Langasek
Michael, On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:01:02PM -0400, Michael MacFadden wrote: I posted several messages to this list earlier this month about getting my package sponsored. Lots of people gave me great suggestions on how to improve the packing and other general ideas. However no one seemed

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 10:32:11PM +0200, Stephan Beyer wrote: Hi, I posted several messages to this list earlier this month about getting my package sponsored. Lots of people gave me great suggestions on how to improve the packing and other general ideas. However no one seemed

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Michael MacFadden
Steve, Thanks for your response. I appreciate the time you took to write out the email. Even a critical response is very valuable. I would like to address some of the points you made. I do agree that the support of web apps is not perfect at the moment. The virtual host problem is

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Brian Nelson
I think you're missing the point. It's not that developers think this should not be packaged. It's that packaging a web app is so difficult to get right that only developers with a very strong personal interest in the software would be willing to even look at it. The vast majority will consider

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Michael MacFadden
Brian, Point taken. But I happen to be the upstream author for this project. So it's not like I just picked this out of a hat, and it's not like I am in the position to say, Well maybe I should just pick something easier to package. The only reason I am looking into packaging this is

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 08:41:16PM -0400, Michael MacFadden wrote: Plenty of web apps do not separate configuration from presentation at all which tends to make maintenance a nightmare. Streamline however has only 1 configuration file which has about 5 lines in it that set up the

Re: Suggestions On Getting A Sponsor

2004-09-27 Thread Michael MacFadden
Steve Langasek wrote: The issue is that providing a package for a webapp that only integrates with certain webserver packages in Debian splits the userbase between those who have a reason to want to use your package, and those who have to do the integration work themselves anyway and won't see