Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-04 Thread Craig Small
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:38:33PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > > Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? > > I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make > > unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-04 Thread Craig Small
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:38:33PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > > Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? > > I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make > > unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-03 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:38:33PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > > Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? > > I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make > > unpacks

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-03 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:38:33PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > > Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? > > I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make > > unpacks

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:42:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > You should really ask Russell Coker on -devel. There may well be a > policy to limit postinst scripts to the things that postinst scripts > typically do. Thanks I shall. I was thinking was that a postinst script, or package inst

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: > As an aside I wonder how well SE-Linux, or the other improved > security patches handle installation issues? I know that by installing > a random package you're effectively giving the package maintainer > root upon your box. > > I'd imagine that a package installation p

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? > I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make > unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz. Why would dh_make go out of its way to violate best practices li

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:42:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > You should really ask Russell Coker on -devel. There may well be a > policy to limit postinst scripts to the things that postinst scripts > typically do. Thanks I shall. I was thinking was that a postinst script, or package inst

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Kemp wrote: > As an aside I wonder how well SE-Linux, or the other improved > security patches handle installation issues? I know that by installing > a random package you're effectively giving the package maintainer > root upon your box. > > I'd imagine that a package installation p

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-03-01 Thread Joey Hess
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > Hmm, dh_make is trying to do a similar approach. Why not use that way? > I like to have the original .tar.gz exactly as I downloaded it. dh_make > unpacks the source and repacks it to a new .orig.tar.gz. Why would dh_make go out of its way to violate best practices li

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Fre, 2003-02-28 at 18:08, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > > I would also add something about dependencies. Be sure to build always > > againt the main debian archive and in the worst case with pkgs that are in > > your external archive of which yo

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Steve Kemp wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > BTW never forget that external archive can be as dangerous as usefull. > > Warn ALWAYS the user that is not an official repository and don't use it > > only for your own "glory"..

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:19:51PM +0100, Henning Moll wrote: > > In addition i have some questions to the Depends section in > > debian/control: ${shlibs:Depends} is a nice feature, but i think > > for many packages/libraries it is way to strict, because it's > > always

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Fre, 2003-02-28 at 18:08, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > > I would also add something about dependencies. Be sure to build always > > againt the main debian archive and in the worst case with pkgs that are in > > your external archive of which yo

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Steve Kemp wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > BTW never forget that external archive can be as dangerous as usefull. > > Warn ALWAYS the user that is not an official repository and don't use it > > only for your own "glory"..

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:19:51PM +0100, Henning Moll wrote: > > In addition i have some questions to the Depends section in > > debian/control: ${shlibs:Depends} is a nice feature, but i think > > for many packages/libraries it is way to strict, because it's > > always

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:19:51PM +0100, Henning Moll wrote: > Thanks for you tips! But still some questions remain: > > On Friday 28 February 2003 16:33, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > Native Package or not? > > -- > > Short answe

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:57:18PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:02:05PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > I have found pbuilder to be a great way to avoid this as well as other > > build time side effects. > I teste

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > BTW never forget that external archive can be as dangerous as usefull. > Warn ALWAYS the user that is not an official repository and don't use it > only for your own "glory".. help the official maintainer with what it will >

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:02:05PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I have found pbuilder to be a great way to avoid this as well as other > build time side effects. I tested it several weeks ago and it did not work for me. Perhaps I should give it anothe

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Henning Moll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Thanks for you tips! But still some questions remain: On Friday 28 February 2003 16:33, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Native Package or not? > -- > Short answer: don't make a native package. Can you explain 'native package'? Did you mean 'bina

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:33:47PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Bug reports > --- > The standard tool for reporting bugs is "reportbug". > Your package should have: > File /usr/share/bug/mypackage/control: > Send-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.develope

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:19:51PM +0100, Henning Moll wrote: > Thanks for you tips! But still some questions remain: > > On Friday 28 February 2003 16:33, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > > Native Package or not? > > -- > > Short answe

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:57:18PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:02:05PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > I have found pbuilder to be a great way to avoid this as well as other > > build time side effects. > I teste

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > BTW never forget that external archive can be as dangerous as usefull. > Warn ALWAYS the user that is not an official repository and don't use it > only for your own "glory".. help the official maintainer with what it will >

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2003-02-28 at 18:08, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > I would also add something about dependencies. Be sure to build always > againt the main debian archive and in the worst case with pkgs that are in > your external archive of which you have control of. This should atleast > ensure a lo

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:02:05PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I have found pbuilder to be a great way to avoid this as well as other > build time side effects. I tested it several weeks ago and it did not work for me. Perhaps I should give it anothe

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Henning Moll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Thanks for you tips! But still some questions remain: On Friday 28 February 2003 16:33, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Native Package or not? > -- > Short answer: don't make a native package. Can you explain 'native package'? Did you mean 'bina

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:33:47PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Bug reports > --- > The standard tool for reporting bugs is "reportbug". > Your package should have: > File /usr/share/bug/mypackage/control: > Send-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > See /usr/share/doc/reportbug/README.develope

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Hi, > > here are some of my tips when packaging unofficial software as .debs. > Perhaps its useful for someone :) > [SNIP] > If there is already an official package eg with version "1.1-4", then

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2003-02-28 at 18:08, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > I would also add something about dependencies. Be sure to build always > againt the main debian archive and in the worst case with pkgs that are in > your external archive of which you have control of. This should atleast > ensure a lo

Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, here are some of my tips when packaging unofficial software as .debs. Perhaps its useful for someone :) Packaging tips for unofficial packages == Maintainer email - You can set the DEBEMAIL en

Re: Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Hi, > > here are some of my tips when packaging unofficial software as .debs. > Perhaps its useful for someone :) > [SNIP] > If there is already an official package eg with version "1.1-4", then

Unofficial package tips

2003-02-28 Thread Bastian Kleineidam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, here are some of my tips when packaging unofficial software as .debs. Perhaps its useful for someone :) Packaging tips for unofficial packages == Maintainer email - You can set the DEBEMAIL en