Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-03-09 Thread Tomasz Muras
On 02/27/2013 06:41 AM, Paul Wise wrote: Bah, I need to read before sending. Very nice response Paul, I think it's worth adding to FAQ: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#Why_is_it_so_hard_to_find_sponsor.3F I've updated "What happens if I can't find a sponsor" as well. cheers, Tomek

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-03-01 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Hi Lenz, Cheers > > > with time, DDs tend to meet loved ones, i have too, also I have a couple, just one, not several, and I am responsible .. a'n my loves use in mayority linux, not window-like over linux > > make children, be promoted

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 01:04:39PM -0430, PICCORO McKAY Lenz a écrit : > > I've noticed that some reports have response as "is not critical, is still > working," or else "not reproducible", or better "u can made a patch u can > made a fix u ca... u can.. u do that" co DD/DM has no time!! NO TI

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-28 Thread PICCORO McKAY Lenz
in recent years the debian packagers have focused on licensing, setting aside as much therefore important that the package works .. I've noticed that some reports have response as "is not critical, is still working," or else "not reproducible", or better "u can made a patch u can made a fix u ca..

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Paul, thanks for your great analysis. I might like to stress explicitly one item (even if I totally agree with all others in general) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 01:37:10PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Specialization: > > Debian contributors generally work on stuff they use or are otherwise > are i

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-27 Thread Arno Töll
On 27.02.2013 20:57, Anton Gladky wrote: >> First - a weighted sponsorship priority queue - all packages get a >> rating and higher-rated packages will get sponsored sooner than others. > > I agree with that. On my opinion the package "weight" should be > calculated, considering the following par

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-27 Thread Philip Ashmore
On 27/02/13 19:57, Anton Gladky wrote: Hi all, my 2 cts. On 02/27/2013 12:07 AM, Philip Ashmore wrote: First - a weighted sponsorship priority queue - all packages get a rating and higher-rated packages will get sponsored sooner than others. I agree with that. On my opinion the package "wei

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/26/2013 10:36 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > it is currently during freeze, most DDs are working on RC > bugs :) If only this was truth! :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-27 Thread Anton Gladky
Hi all, my 2 cts. On 02/27/2013 12:07 AM, Philip Ashmore wrote: > > First - a weighted sponsorship priority queue - all packages get a > rating and higher-rated packages will get sponsored sooner than others. I agree with that. On my opinion the package "weight" should be calculated, considerin

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Paul Wise
I'm reminded of the metrics stuff that was discussed ages ago: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsNet#Metrics -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Bart Martens
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:07:11PM +, Philip Ashmore wrote: > On 26/02/13 21:51, Arno Töll wrote: > >Hi, > > > >On 26.02.2013 22:31, W. van den Akker wrote: > >>I understand [1] and [2]. I meant uploading to unstable and not testing. > >>But none of the DD was ever answering the emails.. >

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Paul Wise
Bah, I need to read before sending. On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > Specialization: ... > Unfortunately can mean Unfortunately this can mean there are no sponsors for particular areas. > Preferences: > > Different folks have different packaging preferences, some like cdbs,

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Paul Wise
Here is a hopefully comprehensive, general answer to this question, not specific to your situation: Freeze: During the release freeze, most Debian folks are focussed on getting the release out. Fixing RC bugs, fixing important bugs, doing upgrade testing, writing release notes, finalising the ins

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Philip Ashmore
On 26/02/13 21:51, Arno Töll wrote: Hi, On 26.02.2013 22:31, W. van den Akker wrote: I understand [1] and [2]. I meant uploading to unstable and not testing. But none of the DD was ever answering the emails.. Be patient and don't give up. I know this can be frustrating and annoying, and w

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Arno Töll
Hi, On 26.02.2013 22:31, W. van den Akker wrote: > I understand [1] and [2]. I meant uploading to unstable and not testing. > But none of the DD was ever answering the emails.. Be patient and don't give up. I know this can be frustrating and annoying, and we're slowly trying to improve the si

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread W. van den Akker
> If I am reading your (big) changelogs correctly, you are (amongst other > things) switching patch-system to quilt, and package new upstream > versions - This is a big no-no for the release team during the freeze > (see [1]) which we have had since June [2]. > > This might lower the chances of g

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Willem van den Akker
> While this isn't true of the general case, which I think there's valid > concern about, it is currently during freeze, most DDs are working on RC > bugs :) Ok. > > Some sponsorship does still go on -- perhaps you could ask some of the > DDs who maintain jabber servers -- the ejabberd folks or

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:09:04 +0100, Willem van den Akker wrote: >Hi, > >I have 2 packages for which I request sponsoring. >http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabberd2 Bug #698547 >http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabber-muc Bug #698548 > >But until now nobody seemed to be interested in sponsoring

Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 03:09:04PM +0100, Willem van den Akker wrote: > Hi, > > I have 2 packages for which I request sponsoring. > http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabberd2 Bug #698547 > http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabber-muc Bug #698548 > > But until now nobody seemed to be interested i

Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Willem van den Akker
Hi, I have 2 packages for which I request sponsoring. http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabberd2 Bug #698547 http://mentors.debian.net/package/jabber-muc Bug #698548 But until now nobody seemed to be interested in sponsoring them. I got messages not familiar with these packages or something